@Dr-Pepper You’re coming across extremely aggressive. I hope you’re not like this in real life, because the tone of your comment sounds like something that would get you a stern talking to if you were in shidduchim.
Anyways, I’ll address everything. My sources for how and when Joe and Jill met is mainly an oft-cited July 17th 1977 article in the Wilmington Morning News where they talk about how they met and have on numerous occasions corroborated the story. You can also look for an article in “The Review” titled “Behind the Stone Balloon” and a Vogue article called “All the Vice-Presidents Women”. As far as I can tell, the only source that Jill and Joe dated before her separation from Bill Stevenson is Stevenson himself. A secret he kept quiet about (including in divorce proceedings) until he wrote it in a book he published a few years ago.
So on one hand we have multiple contemporary reports, articles, statements from parties involved, and statements from people uninvolved. On the other hand, we have the questionable statements of a disgruntled ex-husband that you admit is very biased.
Now morality isn’t a zero-sum game, nor is it a contest. But if it were, Biden would win hands down. I mean, I repeat myself, but you’re basically comparing the standard immorality of the standard politician to someone who is literally off the charts in terms of immorality, gaivah, lying, cheating, and stealing.
I’m not saying to vote for Biden or Harris (I sure don’t want to!) but all this fawning over Trump as if he’s the goyishe Moshiach is ridiculous and frankly embarrassing.
Look, I don’t have an instant recall of every CR thread I commented in and I’m not even sure I even saw the comment where you listed my lies. So I honestly don’t know how to respond to all of that.