Assassination Attempt

Aha like Democrats lying about destroying democracy and accusing Republicans of being fascist. Liar.

laskern,

Is that teshuva or just more hypocrisy from someone who tirelessly criticizes one candidate while whitewashing the glaring faults of the other candidate?

The whole level of discourse has declined since the time of Reagan and even Clinton. Policy disputes were substantive and even personal digs were somehow framed in non-pejorative terms and with Reagan, a great sense of humor and light sarcasm. I don’t think today’s politicians even realize how destructive their rhetoric has become. We can debate which side is worse but thats irrelevant to some degree.

While Trump posted several times yesterday that he was going to try and focus on a unifying message, I’m not sure all the speakers got the memo. Likewise, Biden can’t seem to let go of some of his standard jabs at Trump which he acknowledged in the interview with NBC last night.

Sadly, I don’t see anything on the horizon that will change anything, even with Saturday night’s attack still fresh in our minds.

laskern,

So Brandon is a saint since he apologized for his “unfortunate” bullseye remark after an assassin attempted to do exactly what he said? I’d be shocked at your whitewashing this monster but you’ve also defended FDR who presided over the slaughter of six-million Jews.

I would recommend you stick to the cutesy vertlach that your great-great-great-granddaughter teaches you from b’nos but a leopard can’t change his spots and you’re twisted beyond any redemption.

laskern,

Stop making a mockery of the title “Reb” with your inappropriate, unearned screen name, you twisted ignoramus!

Gadol,
The old & tired FDR slander.
What should he have done?
Wait, don’t tell me, bomb the railroad tracks? (Which was both virtually impossible & would’ve changed nothing).

With respect to the OP, reporting this AM is that local police deployed at the building used by the sniper were stationed INSIDE the building “because the sloped roof was dangerous” but it gets even better. One of the local snipers SAW the shooter with his weapon dressed in tactical gear on at least two occasions BEFORE the shooting, in one instance with the shooter looking at the stage through a rangerfinder but did NOTHING other than try to take a picture on his iPhone and then had trouble downloading it in an attempt to email it to the command post.
I can understand why he might have been hesitant to take him down but WHY not at least detain him rather than allow him to wander off and several minutes later take the shot. Also, it would have taken $50 worth of plywood and 2x4s from the local Home Depot to fabricate a flat platform on the roof rather than having the snipers watching the crowd from ground level inside the building.

The Dems care more about the rights of strangers to mutilate children than they do about “Acheinu kol beis Yisroel.

Considering the recent assassination attempt against Donald Trump,
and Joe Biden’s recent debate disaster,
the article shown below now seems to be prophetic.

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The article shown below is titled:

“The Democrats’ last ditch plans” and was written by Alan Bergstein.
It was published on 2024 May 30 in www (dot) IsraelNationalNews (dot) com:

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I’ll readily admit that I try to regulate my schedule
to tune in to every speech Joe Biden delivers.

It’s not out of respect for the man or for the knowledge he imparts.
With notebook and pen in hand, at each event, I wait patiently for him to come up with
one of his patented fairy tales, start screaming or whispering at the camera,
or merely just close his eyes and amazingly nodding off, while standing upright.

Joe can do it all in the minimum amount of time his handlers allot him.
Too much, and he’ll wander off script, imitating Buddy Hackett.

In short, he’s a scam artist and out of it, but most of all and most sadly,
he’s the US president. And we Americans are stuck with him as long
as he’s still breathing, until Trump’s Inauguration Day,
January 20, 2025. May G-d have mercy on us ’til then…

But all the while, give Biden, this inane quisling, credit for his political survival savvy.
He’s the prime example of a dangerous dictator masquerading as a victim and patriot.
He showers us with self-pitying tales of his wife’s and kids’ disastrous automobile deaths
and falsifies his son Beau’s death as occurring during the Iraq war.

He not only proclaims what kinds of autos, washing machines
and light bulbs we must purchase but also woos the support
of enemy nations with billions of our taxpayer monies.

He also now oversees and controls our formerly independent
criminal justice system consisting of three letter agencies (FBI, CIA, DOJ, IRS),
to harass, prosecute and incriminate his political enemies.

In short, he is an All-American, suit and tie wearing version of a Castro,
Putin, Stalin or Hitler in our White House. Do not underestimate him.

To our amazement, he has tyrannically persecuted, prosecuted and incriminated
the main adversary to his continuing presidency, using our criminal justice system
to openly attempt to throttle Trump’s campaigning…and has failed.

Trump, forced to remain in Manhattan, where Democrat Soros-funded DA,
Alvin Bragg rules, has used his court “off time” to roust up enough NYC
and NJ supporters, to threaten the Democrat dominance in these states.

There seems to be no prosecutorial way to throttle Trump. Legally anyway.

So, with the election looming only five months away and with
Biden’s brain and body withering before our very eyes, with Trump supporters
coming out in droves and with the polls showing a possible
national crushing defeat for the Democrat Party from dog-catcher
up to the White House, what’s their next step, their way out?

*** I believe there might even be a plan, a last ditch one; a last resort,
to harm Trump physically. It’s standard procedure in totalitarian countries
to exterminate serious political opposition, and since
we’re currently bordering on one, why not here?

We’ve seen the viral hatred exhibited by the likes of
Dem leaders, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley,
Bernie Sanders and others of their side of the aisle.

And supporting their positions, the recent nationwide, well led, planned
and funded street and college riots, awakening us to understand that
they are very capable of untold violence to stay afloat and in command.
And anyone, who stands in their way must be erased, removed, eradicated.

We see how Biden and his party have already abandoned Israel,
throwing it to the wolves.

And didn’t the Obama/Biden team gift Iran with a nuclear arsenal?

Sad to say, we’ve come to a point in time when our democracy,
our acceptance of the rights of all to speak up and be heard
is tapering off and is in danger of becoming history.

Donald Trump is the lone one standing in the way of those who
are both on the payroll and in the camp of Iran and China.

His presidency would put an end to China’s growing industrial
and financial dominance over the world and he’d stop the Islamist Iran
from radiating its Koranic control of the Middle East and its energy deposits.

These next most crucial five months will tell the story. if Trump evades
a jail term in NYC and elsewhere, and if he gets free to campaign
and tell the story of the plans the Democrat Party has for this country,
he must be mindful that he is a target, a real one, for his opposition
and must keep a constant security team around him and his family.
May G-d watch over and protect him.

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PERSONAL COMMENT FROM SQUARE_ROOT:

President Joe Biden’s old boss, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama,
used the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to attack
pro-Israel non-profit organizations.

He also did nothing to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

Amazingly, none of this stops Leftist Jews from admiring Obama
or supporting the Democratic Party. It does even slow them down a little.

The wicked Reverend Al Sharpton, who was personally responsible
for an anti-Jewish riot in Crown Heights, was an official partner
and ally of the Obama Administration.

Once again, none of this stops Leftist Jews from admiring Obama
or supporting the Democratic Party. It does even slow them down a little.

Dofi, you are out of line. Cool down.

The whole level of discourse has declined since the time of Reagan and even Clinton.

I’m not normally a “blame the Internet” person, but in this case, I believe there is some merit to the argument.

Before the Internet, if you wanted to discuss politics, you had to do it with real people in real-time. Very often, these were people you knew — your family sitting around the table, your neighbors in your yards, your coworkers meeting around the water cooler, and so on. And you understood that there may be, in that group, people who disagree with you, but, at the end of the conversation, you still had to live and work with these people. As such, you moderated your opinion. Sure, you argued your position, but you didn’t (generally) go overboard because there may have been some real-life social consequences of being seen as extreme in your position.

Now, however, if you want to discuss politics, you can very easily find entire communities online that will cater to whatever your position is. And because these people are strangers whom you will never meet because you are likely hiding behind the anonymity of a screen name, you can let loose with all the vitriol you like. You can espouse a theory, no matter how wacky, and you don’t have to worry about the consequences of having to live and work with the people you are talking to. You can find your own echo chamber of like-minded individuals and get positive reinforcement for your position with no opposition — no matter how correct or ridiculously wrong your position is.

This, I believe, has led to a fundamental change in the way we discuss politics today. Moderation is no longer necessary. You can go full throttle with any language and theories you choose with little if any, social consequences afterward.

The Wolf

I wholeheartedly agree with wolf

laskern,

Truth is the most important. So don’t get all bent out of shape when you’re called-out for your arrogance and twisted political outlook. Stick to the cutesy b’nos vertlach instead; those are at least hopefully true.

@dr pepper ”
“Standing up out of respect for someone who knows as much Torah as you claim he does yet votes Democrat is a disgrace to Hashem and the Torah. If you’ve davened with him more times than you can count can you let us all know he if steps out for שביעי in אחרי מות?”

I have a shulchan Aruch and a chumash. It says you’re meant to stand up for a Talmud Chacham, and even an old man who isn’t a Talmid Chacham.
I Don’t know you personally, but The fact that you cam up with this comment shows that politics and pop culture has skewed your mind to the point where you seriously believe those halachos don’t matter, and that your made up caveat is actually what the torah meant.

Hanei Bavle Tipshai.

@skripka

Politics has skewed my mind to the point that Halachos don’t matter?

You’re 100% wrong again. Politics have nothing to do with how I serve Hashem. I serve Hashem based on how the Torah says to serve Hashem and no amount of money or handouts could get me to budge an iota.

Politics has actually brought out the true colors of those that pretend to serve Hashem but then turn the other way when the Democrats dangle money in front of them.

Those that are as knowledgeable in the Torah as you claim they are yet vote for the party that’s anti-Hashem and anti-Torah show how they really feel about Hashem and the Torah.

After the tragic events that happened on October 7th, anyone that still supports the political party that funded our adversaries and is emboldening our enemies (to holdout for an extremely lopsided prisoner swap) for the handouts that the Democrats are dangling in front of them is showing their true colors of what’s more important to them.

I’m by far not an expert in the Shulchan Aruch so if you can point me to where it says that an elderly person who knowingly and publicly disgraces Hashem and the Torah still deserves respect I’ll apologize to Reb Eliezer and be more respectful to him.

I have no idea what you’re inferring by “Hanei Bavle Tipshai” so if you explain it in English I try to address that as well.

@Dr Pepper.

First of all, congrats on finally calling him Reb Eliezer. Secondly, FOr you to say that he “publically disgraces Hashem and his Torah” is such hyperbole that you should be ashamed to write it. Seriously, it’s just dumb.

I still stand by what I said, because you’re still exhibiting the same behaviors. You still think that somehow, every single thing a Republican says is Torah, and that anyone who says “wait a minute, this actually isn’t the hashkafa of Yiddishkeit,” or, “I prefer not to vote/agree for your preferred candidate/your pet issue” is a kapo, a self-hating Jew, apikorus, etc. (just review all the names you and your ilk throw at people) andthat their Rabbanim are “Rabbi Sally” or “Avi Weiss” etc.. It’s just exceptionally krum and sad.

The Gemara I quoted was the gemara that quotes an Amorah who says that the “Bavliem” (Babylonians) are fools, because the stand up for Sifrei Torah, but not for Talmedei Chachamim. Read into it what you will.

Someone who takes millions in bribes that costs the country trillions of dollars is extremely selfish.

If he’s so selfless why did it take him so long to give up the presidential bid?

After Trump called for “unity” and a more civil dialogue at the Republican Convention Thursday night, the Ohio legislator introducing J.D. Vance at a rally in Ohio last night screamed to the crowd that “if we lose this election, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country… and if we come down to a civil war, I’m glad we got people like Bikers for Trump on our side.”.
Clearly, he didn’t get the memo or if he did, he violently disagrees with Trump’s call for unity and civility. In fairness, he apologized this morning for his poor choice of words. Perhaps there is a more polite way to say “civil war”.

I’m certain the Dems have their own crazies and we will have these kinds of instances going forward on both sides,