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Chaim87
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If you study history you will see that the idea of Das torah and that you must follow your rebbe without disputing him (like chasdim) is a new thing. In the big yeshivas a rebbe taught them torah but they were not mevtal to the rebbe. Research what it was like in Telz, Slabodka, Volozhin etc. Even in the Mir. The litfisha view of a rebbe was limited to just being someone who you learned torah by and not that you were mevatl to him. The whole das torah movement started by R Chaim Ozer but even then it wasn’t like today. Most were independent thinkers. (The exception was the close talmidum of R Chaim maybe). Mnay old rosh yeshivas even held that they need to keep distance and not get too warm with talmidim. If you never study history this will be hard to believe. the fact that you feel attached to R Bender shlita is because litfisha today aren’t what they used to be. its a great thing but its not old school litfaks. Re your point about chasdim not even meeting a rebbe yet follwoing his every word, I don’t see why The tzadfik R chaim Kaneivsky zl was so different. Yes I was zocheh once or twice to get a bracha vahatzlacha from him but I really never saw him yet follow his every word like a reba. R chaim was part of the “litfisha” chasdis” and my reba.