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yankel berel
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“Or , Phrased in another way – If you, CS, would be put in a ‘time machine’ , transported to the 1990 – 1994 era , and would be commenting on these pages , would you ‘explain’ those hazal like the shitah of ‘then habad’ or like you do now ?”

I have no idea [CS]
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You are not being honest . Although you promised honesty .
You would defend the Habad line to the tee.
Just like you are doing now .
Without any regard for facts, reality and common sense.

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Just to make sure I have you right, you say the reason others didn’t see The Rebbe as a candidate for Moshiach (obviously among the ones who didn’t) had nothing to do with the alive or dead debate? So what was it then?
[CS]
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They did not see the Rebbi of the habad hasidim as a candidate for M because ….

1] for the last 2 thousand years yidden NEVER looked for ‘candidates’ . Full Stop.
The few instances some looked and FELL for [bogus] candidates, it invariably resulted in DISASTER.
This whole idea of ‘looking for candidates’ is UNHEARD OF in normative yahadut , and is a newfangled notion, introduced by habad in the last 60 years AS A TOOL for the tolerance / acceptance of “the one Asher habad hafets biyekaro”.
This is CRYSTAL CLEAR to any unbiased observer.

2] The Great Deception which habad attempted to use ,to make their leader palatable and tolerated as M by other Orthodox Jews .

For many decades habad , encouraged milema’ala , steadfastly denied any notion of attempting to crown their leader as M .
Anyone accusing Habad of the above was committing a blood libel , no less .
This was [supposedly] a MALEVOLENT SHEKER , stemming from nothing more than hate and prejudice , from midot ra’ot , from a two hundred years old blind vendetta against the originators of hasidut .
From people who [supposedly] wore tfillin pesulim , who are propped up with ga’ava and ego , and said ga’ava and ego were the sole reason why they were groundlessly accusing innocent ,selfless habadi’s of promotion of their Manhig .
Those accusations were [supposedly] BASELESS and those accusations themselves [based on the fact they were baseless] were used as ironclad proof of the malevolence of the accusers , no matter their number or their status.
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Everyone knows how that turned out .
During the four years of Giluy Mashiach [1990 – 1994] , the Great Deception was uncovered in all its glory .
The so called ‘blood libel’ turned out to be a case of Ezehu Haham HaRo’e Et HaNolad.
The ‘malevolent sheker’ turned out to be grounded in fact and reality.
The whole idea of ga’ava , ego , midot ra’ot driven false accusations , sprinkled with unsubtantiated tfillin psulim allegations , melted totally under the harsh glare of the sun consisting of the new reality of messianic drivel and frenzy ,clearly directed [again] milema’ala.
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If all that is not enough , then what is ?
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When the Mashiach Amiti will come ,we will not need gimmicks ,nor great deceptions, nor will we need glib answers or wholesale change of topic [as replacements for answers] , nor will we need hazakot al ta’amula shelo hozeret rekam .
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We do not have to worry how it is going to work .
It is not our business .
HKBH bihvodo uve’atsmo , not melubash beguf , will make it work .
He created the world , He gave the Torah , He looked and looks after the Yehudim in Galut .
The same RBSH’O Who did all of the above , will effect the Ge’oula HA’AMITIT , without candidacies and without any of our own ‘tricks’ .
Bechol Yom Achakeh

LO !

Lo , and not anyone else.

This the position of yahadut immemorial . And it will remain so .
Yishtabah Shemo.