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Menachem: “Thanks to chassidus, I and my fellow Lubavitchers possibly think more about Hashem every day than the average frum Jew”

The very sad part about your claim is that you probably believe it. And I have heard this idea, in different words, from many Lubavichers who probably also believe it.

It is such garbage that I am flabbergasted! I have a vast knowledge of Lubavich – as I believe I have demonstrated in other threads in the CR – and I have a lesser but nonetheless broad knowledge of other groups to which I do not belong, including other chassidishe chatzeiros, yeshivishe communities, and the modern orthodox. (Unfortunately, due to my upbringing and lifestyle I do not have a broad knowledge of Sfardi groups.) You may consider the above as me being arrogant, and maybe I am, but I am telling you about what I know from decades of study in various forms.

From my experience ALL chassidishe and yeshivishe groups, and MANY MOs think far more about Hashem than Lubavichers.

You and your compatriots fool yourselves into believing that you are thinking about Hashem because you have been inculcated with the belief that the Lubavicher rebbe is almost indistinguishable from Hashem (c”v), and that therefore everything associated with Lubavich is associated with Hashem.

Have you even noticed that no one anywhere else says anything other than “Kiddush Hashem”, yet Lubavichers so often say “Kiddush Lubavich”? If you don’t believe me google the phrase. I have never ever heard a Satmar chossid – and I know many – say “Kiddush Satmar”, or a yeshivisher say “Kiddush Lita”. Have you?

Lubavichers love telling mocking stories of people who say “Lekovod Shabbos” before eating like gluttons, when in reality they are only eating “Lekovod Habetten”. Personally I see the point they are making, but they are no different when it comes to Lubavich.

One should indeed eat lichvod Shabbos, but saying it once and then forgetting about it ruins everything, because the glutton has convinced himself that he is eating lesheim Shomayim, and this just leads to greater gluttony. Similarly, it would be fine for a Lubavicher to start off thinking that shitas Lubavich will lead him to avodas Hashem (Disclaimer: I believe that it won’t and that in 99% of cases it hasn’t for the last fifty years) but to then forget the avodas Hashem part and concentrate on Lubavich based on a prior intention/claim, is counterproductive as it leads to thinking about Hashem way less than the frum Jews you are talking about.