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Soon after the massacre on October 7, 2023, I stopped listening to all music.
My intention (Bli Neder) is to not listen to any kind of music,
until all the hostages are free, and returned to their homes.I hope they are freed very soon, even today.
I don’t know how long I can maintain this resolution.Nobody told me to do this.
But enjoying myself by listening to music just does not feel right,
when so many hostages and their families are suffering.
And also the suffering of the injured and widows and orphans.You can do whatever you want, but I feel that I must do this.
Your showing Hashem that your taking part of the important middah of being nosei b’ol your brethren suffering in klal yisroel and this is a very high level of care and showing Hashem our loving father and king of Kings.
May it be a zchus for you and also for all of klal yisroel to show Hashem that we should be deserving of the coming of Mashiach already bkarov and openly confess with love to Hashem our doing of serious Teshuva and Achdus together ASAP like one loving nation
It is quite the commitment, and as an Israeli, I am touched by your gesture. This is not for everyone, but as Sam Klein said, you are being Noseh b’Ol Chaveiro in a way that is meaningful.
I note that here in Israel, some people specifically do listen to music now as a way to keep themselves from drowning in the situation – and that is proper too. It is akin to the Abarbenel hiring musicians to play for the Jews leaving Spain on Tisha b’Av in 1492 – he felt that the need to strengthen the spirits of those being expelled was enough of a reason to override the general Issue of music on Tisha b’Av.
an Israeli Yid.
Yasher koach! Being nosei b’ol is a huge deal. I posted about it a few weeks ago (https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/nosei-bol-chaveiro), as R’ Bender had spoken about it.
I gave up eating dessert after meals. Small things make all the difference!I would humbly suggest taking on kabalos which are required, as we all have nisyonos in one mitzvah or another. Whether it’s shmiras aynayim, shmiras halashon, bitul Torah, or whatever else; I think mitzvos which are obligatory should come before deprival of pleasure.
Also, if you learn/daven better after having desert or if you listen to music, I’m pretty sure it’s more important to learn and daven better than to give up those pleasures.
I don’t mean to criticize what is clearly a very meaningful, inspired feeling that people have now, to do better, to be nosei b’ohl. Just some “food” for thought
In Yerusalem no music is played at weddings for the past 150 years, yet life goes on.
PS on a side note, I don’t know if the music being performed these days qualifies as Yiddisher music.Isn’t there an issur against listening to music before the Beis Hamikdash is rebuilt?
there is a issur to listen to music, there is a machlokes when its asur or mutar. see sh”u 560. rama, bach. so many hold that its assur to listen to music, so great idea – chumra, hidur – to take on.
I have also taken this on, not as a takanah, but because of the feeling of availus that I have. Last night’s ZAKA concert was pretty much the first time I’ve listened since the start of this horror.
Kol hakavod to all of you for your very noble feelings and acts of nosei be’ol.
Another suggestion is to say at least once a day “asher yatzar” with kavanah – preferably while reading it, rather than by heart – and to have in mind that Hashem Who heals all mankind should heal all who have been injured by terrorism and the war.
And, of course, we should think – and even say – the same in the berachah of refaeinu in Shemoneh Esrei.Some people in Israel reported being busy making green tzitzis to match IDF uniform that were reportedly requested by multiple soldiers (who presumably did not wear them previously).
How about contacting an Yid dressed differently from oneself and saying something nice to him
To the Owners and/or Moderators of TYW,
Any reason my important comments posted yesterday 20/11 were not published?
Adam Neira
Founder World Peace 2050
Founded April 2000 in Melbourne, AustraliaP.S. Caroline and I have been in Jerusalem since 14/9/2023. We arrived in Eilat on 13/9 after spending 7 days in Jordan and 8 days in Saudi Arabia.
Just wasn’t really sure who you are, where you’re coming from, or what your message was about. Nothing personal.
Square root
Your absolutely going in the right direction with the right intentions in mind. Does a mourner not listen or sing music during the Shabbos meal or during a holiday whichever holiday it might be? As the wisest person King Solomon said thousands of years ago “there’s a time and a place for everything” but he doesn’t stop there what does he do? He lists over 25 examples of situations for a person to be in and ends “for a time of Calamity comes to them all”. Do you know which Pasuk this is in Koheles? It is the Passuk of 9-11 (the 9th Chapter & 11th sentence), relating to Tisha B’av. The day set aside by Hashem to be a day of mourning. Is this coincidence? Is this not shocking? Look at the list of so many calamities & tragedies that has occurred in the past relating to 9-11. (from the ones which I have already mentioned to some which I may mention soon) How many thousands of years ago was the book of Koheles written? Who made it come out to be this Passuk of 9-11? was it Shlomo Hamelech or was it Hashem? This is another message directly from Hashem for us to stop our way of life we are living in today’s generation….-Which we think is perfect & Sinless-immediately & start doing Teshuva.
May we all accept Hashems wake up call for serious Teshuva and Achdus together ASAP so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov before Chanukah starts so Klal yisroel can spend Chanukah in Yerushalayim with the rebuilding of the Bais hamikdosh bkarov
Sam Klein, nice thought but Tisha B’Av isn’t 9/11. As Nissan is the “head of months”, Av is the fifth month. (See Zecharia 8:19.)
Yitz721
If Nissan is the start of the new year then why do we change the year number in Tishrei and also daven for a good year ahead in Tishrei? Shouldn’t it be in Nissan according to what you wrote?
We can’t run away from Hashems direct messages and if the entire world really changed the new year in Nissan and not Tishrei then Hashem would have made all the messages relating to Tisha bav would all come out to be 9/5 instead of 9/11 so stop fooling yourself and think we can run away from Hashems wake up call for serious Teshuva and Achdus cause that’s why we’re still sadly in exile today cause we continue to live I denial instead of waking up to FACE REALITY IMMEDIATELY ace start doing serious Teshuva and Achdus together ASAP so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov
I take it Sam hasn’t learned Gemara rosh hashana
Respect.
At the Shloshim Azkara for Harav Matisyahu Salomon ZT”L, R’ Avraham Schorr said that he knows of a family that lives outside of Lakewood who the girls have not taken a hot shower since Shemini Atzeres (only lukewarm showers).
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At the Darchei Torah dinner a few weeks ago, R’ Bender said that there’s a boy in Darchei who is doing the same thing – only lukewarm showers. There are others who have taken on other things. I believe there’s a boy who is sleeping without pillows.
I’ve had dessert a couple of times, for a specific reason. We had Shabbos guests who brought dessert, and purposely brought something they know I enjoy. I didn’t want them to feel bad, so I had a small piece. I spoke to a Rav after, and he agreed that it was the right thing to do.to point out todays Hayom Yom:
One of the Baal Shem Tov’s teachings:
“When you see chamor, a donkey”1 – when you carefully examine your chomer (“materiality”), your body, you will see…
…”your enemy” – meaning, that your chomer hates your Divine soul that longs for G‑dliness and the spiritual, and furthermore, you will see that it is…
…”lying under its burden” placed upon it – (the body) by G‑d, namely, that it should become refined through Torah and mitzvot; but the body is lazy to fulfill them. It may then occur to you that…
…”you will refrain from helping it” – to enable it to fulfill its mission, and instead you will follow the path of mortification2 of the flesh to break down the body’s crass materiality. However, not in this approach will the light of Torah reside. Rather…
…”you must aid it” – purify the body, refine it, but do not break it by mortification.the Taz writes (Even HaEzer 25:1) that one who eats well and sleeps adequately to have energy to serve Hashem earns the same merit as one who fasts. He thus explains the passuk (Tehilim 127:2) “It is futile for you who arise early, who sit late, who eat the bread of toil, so will the Lord give to one who banishes sleep from himself” – both learners who deprive themselves of sleep in order to learn and those who sleep adequately before learning earn the same merit, because what one can do in an hour after sleeping well, a sleep-deprived learner does in two. “It is futile for you who arise early” – the efforts you make to wake up early in the morning and sit up late in the Beis Midrash at night, are for naught, because: “…So will the Lord give to one who banishes sleep from himself.” The portion of Torah of one who sleeps properly and one who deprives himself of sleep will be equal. : “Everything depends on the intention“
@SR, who is Nachi? never heard of him, does he daven in YIM
You never answered my question who is Nachi and why should we listen to him?
Commonsaychel,
My assumption is that it’s nachi Gordon (of meaningful minute podcast)
@Coffee, who is Mr. Gordon and what is area of expertise?
I told you who he is
What does it matter what his expertise is?
“What does it matter what his expertise is?”
If you expect people to be impressed because someone says something then that person has expertise in the subject matter not some ramblings of a blogger.
The rant of a blogger carries the same authority of some drunk on the subway.“The rant of a blogger carries the same authority of some drunk on the subway.“
And if people decide to follow the ramblings of “some blogger” (or for that matter some drunkard on the subway) you have a problem with that?
Why does it bother you? No one said you have to follow what he says
No one said you have to follow what he says
Actually Sqaure Root did, your free to follow any blogger or drunk but holding them up as an expert of some sort that’s a whole separate matter.
Dear Square Root,
I never said any lies about you or for that matter anything about you.
My issue is that you post rambling post from unknown people as if its torahs moshe, I have no issue if the person is a known expert in that particular field [ such as Rabbi Dr Twerski and addiction] but when you post a stupid comment from someone unknown I will not take it seriously, nothing against you.
Sincerely
Commonsaychel
SQUARE ROOT
I am extremely jealous of your bravery and reward that awaits you for what you’re still keeping up with to this day and not stopping for the sake of our loving brethren suffering in Gaza and not even knowing what their conditions are currently.
May Hashem give you lots of Hatzlacha in everything and may it be a great merit for them to all be freed quickly very soon.
With the drivel that passes for today’s Jewish music I think I won’t listen even after the hostages are released.
This is easy to test – look at your posts 216 days ago and see if you are thinking better now.
SQUARE_ROOT, tizku lemitzvos. That’s an amazing kabala and it’s even more impressive that you’ve stuck to it all this time. May Hashem watch over and protect those who are risking their lives protecting B’nei Yisroel, and may we be zoche to see the safe return of the hostages and the eradication of Hamas.
Sam, do not use chapter notation to learn anything from it as it was not created by Jews.
We should only use chapters for reference only.
Very chashuv. Maybe some should adopt no music till all jewish sick are healed. Untill all non frum jews do tshuva.
Bli Neder no Matza 30 days before Pesach unless the hostages are free.
Bil Neder no lighting of Chanukah candles before the 25 of Keslev unless the hostages are free
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