Reply To: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher

ARSo,

He said it about the Rayatz and not about himself. So did he or did he not mean to imply it about himself?

Oy, this is so simple. The fact that it’s about Lubavitch seems to be clouding your mind (as yankel says, shochad y’aver…)

Again, imagine if Reb Chaim proved from a Gemara that “Talmidei Chachamim go straight to Olam Habah.”

His talmidim will probably say, “Wow, our dear teacher, Reb Chaim, will go straight to Olam Habah!”

Here’s the question: Was Reb Chaim referring to himself in his statement?

If yes – that’s gaava!

If not – why did his students say that it was about himself?

I think the answer to this is simple common sense, and that applies also to your question about the Rebbe.

Wasn’t it R Yoel Kahn who said after 3 Tammuz that the mistake of the chassidim is that they decided the rebbe was Mashiach when he didn’t say so explicitly

No. He said that it’s the mistake of chassidim to OBSESS with the Rebbe being Moshiach since he didn’t say so explicitly and it can cause lots of damage.

Reb Yoel considered the Rebbe his Rebbe even though he never ever said “I’m the Rebbe.”
Why? Because a Rebbe doesn’t decide that he is Rebbe, chassidim decide to accept someone as their Rebbe.
This has been throughout history.
Teachers never taught their students how to look at them and how to respect them.
The students learned from the respect that the teachers had for THEIR teachers to learn how to relate to them.

Reb Elimelech never said “I am one with Hashem, connect with me!” He said: “Tzaddikim are one with Hashem.”
I’m sure that his talmidim inferred from there that Reb Elimelech is one with Hashem, and treated him with great respect. Does this mean that really he was referring to himself so this is gaava?

I feel like I’m explaining a concept to a five year old.