CS: “because The Rebbe took his responsibility as Nassi HaDor”
That is weird! Is that the same as Trump lehavdil considering himself President? You don’t become something because you decide to be that thing. Unless, of course, you are extremely woke.
n0m to me: “I have a low opinion of your posts. A lot of ‘the eye of the beholder’ judgements.”
I see. Your posts are direct from Sinai, then. We are all offering our opinions. That’s what all these threads are about.
And your reply to my saying how chauvinistic and wrong it is that L chassidim say that when we others say “the Rebbe” we are referring to the L rebbe and not to our own, does not make any sense in “the eye of this beholder”. Ask us who we mean, and you will hear that you are wrong.
“Gur, Satmar, or any other group, that has way less tradition and is even farther out there”
??? Gur, Satmar, Belz, Lelov, Tzanz and all others have traditions as far-reaching as Lubavitch, and even more so when you consider all the innovations made in Lubavich.
And what do you mean by “is even farther out there”?
Yechi: “So you admit it [the title Nossi Hador] existed as a concept, but subsequently died out at some unknown time until the Rebbe discovered it?”
Try replacing the word “discovered it” with “reinvented it AND APPROPRIATED IT FOR HIMSELF even though it’s not applicable today”.
CS: “In the Zohar: אתפשטותא דמשה שבכל דרא ודרא”
The seforim that I have seen where this is quoted explain it to mean that the ispashtusa deMoshe is in the entire generation, not in only one individual. Perhaps you can cite me non-Lubavich sources that explain it the way Lubavich undrestands it. Btw, I am not being facetious here. I would really like to know if there are sources.
YankelBerel, I want to thank you for saving me the time by writing such coherent posts, and probably doing a better job than I could!