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n0mesorah
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Dear Qwerty,

I was pointing to your explanation of judges as partners in creation. Nothing to do with Chabad on that.

The ideas of rationalism that you posted, equate to weak scholarship and nothing else. It is not in any philosophical tradition. And is the opposite of chazal that believed intense scholarship to be the only worthwhile tradition of intellectual studies. You did nothing to explain how a judge can be a partner in creation. All you did was bring one source that creation is ongoing.

Rational belief systems take years to develop. I have been debating theology with big minds since before my bar mitzvah. I still don’t think my belief system is rational. Your system seems to be to only focus on the rational and deny everything else. Denial is the opposite of belief. So I don’t see your thinking as rational at all. It is irrational to reject whatever you don’t understand.

It would only be polytheism if we would deify judges on the basis of that statement. If you know what it means to really ‘deify a god’, than you would know Chabad does not do that with their Rebbe. At least not yet. And I maintain that it is not our problem until they cross that line. It is a Chabad issue, and the secret is that every group has this or a comparable issue.

Don’t point out to me messianics/heretics/crazies that can be found in every group.

I gave three options to continue this conversation. You didn’t pick a lane. What is wrong with the sicha that is the cause of this whole thread.

1) The Rebbe had an agenda.
2) Taditional chassidus.
3) Classical kabbalah.

There is no shame of not having enough background to really understand this controversy. The only ones who think it is about the basics are the ines who claim that everyone has to be Chabad. (And the anti Chabad crowd that thinks they can keep up with a Chabad Bochur in these teachings.)