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AviraDeArah
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Right, fair point that it’s not a navi, but we also find that the soton does things like this as a test, like when he made an image of Moshe dying on har Sinai to test klal yisroel and see if they would sin, and they did, with the egel.

As for individual stories – every war in history has hashgocha protis stories, in every country. War is a time when people see the yad Hashem more than usual…as the saying goes, there aren’t any atheists in a foxhole.

And if Hashem did a miracle for an atheist who went around parading his sins after the state was made, does that mean Hashem did a miracle for a person like that and that he deserved it? Or was it, as the brisker rov said, in order to safeguard the frummer yidden who lived in eretz yisroel – in spite of, not because of the zionists? The latter is a lot clearer.

Regarding the year count – yes, we’ve been in galus for 2,000 years, and yes gedolim have said and continue to say that Moshiach is ready to come soon…but he hasn’t, and if you think that the state is the ashchalta…. nothing redemptive has happened since then. Only more sin and more terrorism. 70 years is a galus in itself, as it was after bayis rishon, so how can over 70 years be an aschalta?

If anything, chazal say that it holds back moshiach, as the gemara says that ben dovid will not come until the lowest jewish rulership is gone.