Dofi, if you can produce a study that shows that more than 30% of charedi Jews habitually engage in sinful behavior, then by all means, do. But the fact that you buy into New York Times propaganda about the ultra orthodox and hasidic jewish crooks just says more about where you spend time than anything else.
It’s anecdotal, and it’s because you don’t like frum people. It’s your own sinas hatorah that amei haaretz have, and it’s nothing new – you can go from Akiva wanting to bite rabbis to being Rebbe Akiva if you’d apply yourself to learning.
And if you’ll read the Nishma study, you’ll see that there’s plenty of MO crookedness in bein odom lechavero too; it tops their list of most important priorities, together with yeshiva costs, with the left winfg believingt that “womens issues” is very important.
The reason we’re discussing institutionalized heresy and sin is because it’s a direct product of MO education, culture, and community. The mother’s milk is all about zionism, social justice, movies, tv, unfettered internet access, making frei people and goyim into heros, the idea that some people “arent cut out to be frum,” secularization of jewish values, belief in modern “isms,” and loads more.
In the yeshiva world, there are sinners, but they’re not claiming to represent the yeshiva world. Their sin is despite their upbringing of fear of Hashem and Torah mattering above all else. And no one made a movement in the yeshivos to accept LGBT and other sins. It doesn’t happen, because the institution – the culture, leadership, communal/social norms, are all about Torah and Hashem, with nothing else mixed in. The only normalized problems are a pursuit of gashmius among SOME, baalabatish people, who if not for yeshivos, would not only be gashmiusdik, but also far less observant. Instead of having 30% not keeping halacha and 60% not being maaminim, we have almost everyone keeping halacha and believing, with some who sin on ocassion, and others who pursue the wrong things in life while devoting the lions share of their time and money to torah matters, including tzedaka and paying tuiton. Gashmius pursuit, while wrong, is nowhere near the scale of sinfulness and breaches of halacha delineated in this thread.
If you walk into a MO shul dressed like a shiksa, no one will bat an eyelash; actually, saying that she dresses like one will raise many more eyebrows and will signal calls of misogyny and whatever else.
That doesn’t happen anywhere else. Just MO. Where are the female rabbis, the LGBT advocates, the psychologists who think they know better than rabbonim, the ethicists who question the Akeidah, the people who say we need to “reconsider” shelo asani ishah, the people who think that yeshiva men are cavemen because they dont go to college, the people who have more respect for the atheist ben gurion than for rav shach, and tons else…
where are they?