>>>When we talk about toeiva isn’t it a toeiva to hear the views above about helping the less fortunate through your taxes?
There are no liberal groups who preach giving YOUR money to the less fortunate. They preach giving OTHER peoples money away to do so . They talk about the obligation “society” has to avoid taking responsiblity as individuals to help others
It is a toeiva to hear people talking about helping themselves through OTHER peoples taxes. And it is certainly no Mitzva to forcibly take money from one person to help another.
Gezel is a teoiva too. ..
The gemara does not give it that as one of the explanations for what “Chesed L’Umim Chatas” means but I was told there is a Medrash that says “Chesed L’Umim Chatas” is because they consider forcibly taking money from “A” to give to “B” to be an act of “chesed”