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There are a number of house races in frum areas that are hyper competitive, for example the 4th CD [5 towns] 13th CD [staten island] 17th CD [rockland] 18th CD [orange] NJ 7th CD [union linden] FL 27 [miami beach] PA senate etc
The frum vote can make a differnce in those areas, if you live in those areas what is current thinking?Current thinking is Vote Republican.
Vote early, vote often (even if your not from Chicago).
“Vote early, vote often (even if your not from Chicago).“
Like Michigan and arizona
Hashem runs THE ENTIRE WORLD and all these politicians from big presidents and kings to small mayor’s and senators etc…. Are honestly and truthfully just actors and direct messengers from Hashem to act as rulers but really Hashem is running every tiny city to state and all countries in the entire world.
Turn directly to Hashem for help in your time of need…. Much better than going through a messenger rather a Rabbi or political leader etc…..
As we say in the end of bentching-from Tehillim-vdorshei Hashem lo yachseru kol tuv which means for one who seeks out Hashem directly lacks nothing that is good
Commonsaychel
You have a good question
The answer to your question all depends on how soon klal yisroel stops living in Denial and starts FACING REALITY. do you think Hashem wants to C”V destroy and take away from klal yisroel this beautiful Medina shel chessed Hashem gave us of the USA that was actually discovered by a Jewish messenger? Yes actually discovered by accident but nothing just happens by mistake or coincidence.
Let’s hope we all wake ourselves up from living in Denial and FACE REALITY IMMEDIATELY and accept Hashems wake up call for serious Teshuva and Achdus ASAP together as one loving nation so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov.
Hashem has already decided on who will win in every single upcoming election worldwide from local township to country presidents to Israel prime minister etc….. So what’s the need to go out and vote if Hashem already decided who the winners are? Ever heard of every person doing their HISHTADLUS? And showing Hashem they care? Plus for the fact called “we don’t depend on Miracles”
May we all start to realize and open our eyes to see Hashem the king of kings ruler of the entire world running every tiny little big to every big country
I’d say that the frum vote made a difference in these races.
DO NOT listen to any rebbes, pundits, askanim, partisan hacks who claim that we made a mistake in endorsing Zeldin. Zeldin did better than any other Republican running for governor in NYS in a while. We do what is right, not what is expedient. I am proud of so many in our community for doing the right thing in endorsing Zeldin; there are not enough of us, though, to offset the influence of liberal voters, from the blacks, Moslems, unions, hipsters, and liberal Jews.
We got rid of Maloney in NY 17. Malliotakis crushed little max rose. A shul I am part of was vandalized in October 2020 in an antisemitic attack by a Muslim, and he came the shabbos after, and he basically campaigned rather than offered divrei nechama. He’s a rasha.
Long Island congressional seats largely flipped Republican. In central NJ, they sent Malinowski packing. I believe the influx of frum Jews into south Florida, Hollywood, Miami, and surrounding areas resulted in the state turning out so forcibly for Rubio and DeSantis; those Miami Dade area counties flipped red.
Pennsylvania was a big disappointment, but there aren’t any really significant frum communities there. The mainline community in Bala Cynwyd area is small, and not so impactful. Neither in Pittsburgh. I do think Mastriano was a poor choice of candidate, and his close ties to JFJ missionary types was off-putting. However, Shapiro is a bizayon; he falsely claims to be an observant Jew, and this is a ziyuf hatorah. Dr. Oz was also a poor choice; McCormick lost by only 1000 votes in a contentious primary. I think Trump needs to retire from politics; he’s got the opposite of a Midas touch in swing states. Whoever he associates with loses in such states, as the Trump persona and brand is seem negatively by undecideds and people without any conviction.
I predicted that Republicans would flip the House, which seems likely, that Zeldin would lose but that it would be closer than years past, and that the Senate would be a tossup. I am disappointed by the loss in PA, although it seems that will be offset by a win in NV. This comes down to Georgia, and sadly, Walker failed to garner the same support that Gov. Kemp garnered and that frightens me. I hope Kemp hits the campaign trail hard for Walker and Trump stays away.
At least Stacey Abrams and Beto O’Rourke will fade into oblivion, along with 3 time loser Charlie Crist.
Another point lost on many is that the Republican party continues to diversify in terms of candidates, which the media will not report.
Candidates such as Joe Pinion, Darius Mayfield, Billy Prempeh, Yesli Vega, Mayra Flores, Allen Fung, Hung Cao, Anna Paulina Luna, Monica De La Cruz, LaRon Singletary, Vernon Jones, John James, Kathy Barnette, Jennifer Ruth Green, and others you likely don’t know of made a good showing. Dr. Oz was the first Muslim to ever end up on a ballot for US Senate. While I do no endorse toeiva, Zeldin had a lesbian running mate and George Santos won his congressional seat on Long Island. We’re living in interesting times.
dovrosenbaum, isn’t Zeldin a bizoyan and ziyuf Hatorah marrying a non-Jew and thereby having non-Jewish children?
sam klein “Hashem runs THE ENTIRE WORLD and all these politicians from big presidents and kings to small mayor’s and senators etc…. Are honestly and truthfully just actors and direct messengers from Hashem to act as rulers”
sammy, would you stand in the middle of a highway as a truck barrels down on you?
answer that one, and we can continue this naarishe conversationCS, two wrongs don’t make right. If I have known, I would have not voted for him as it becomes a question in one’s trustworthiness but I don’t like one following Trump either.
I will repeat what I wrote on another topic about Trump:
Trump as president was grossly incompetent by encouraging his best advisors to resign and fire them otherwise because he considered himself a stable genius. A smart person wants to hear the advice of others and not hire yes men. He had no political experience. He destroyed all of our alliances and almost NATO. The US gains from its existence as the support of Ukraine. He forgot about the Domino Theory. He endorsed likewise a great football player which does not a senator make. Similarly, a TV doctor snake oil salesman does not make one either. J D Vance bought his position. The only good thing he did was the Abraham Accords. It is no wonder that he is being recognized as a loser.RebE, you are entitled to your own opinions but not the facts. I understand it is not your fault, your radio is on some wicked channel. He had multiple advisors who are independent thinkers, and they had disagreements and discussions. In some cases, he changed or delayed his decisions. Most anti T republicans complain about style but not substance of his policies on any topic. If you admit the facts, I’ll take your opinions seriously then.
I did not like Trump’s policies elevating autocrats and degrading our allies. Giving tax breaks to the rich which to my knowledge has not increased economic activity but our national debt. Originally he down played the dangers of COVID causing over a million dead including some of my friends. I also give him credit for the acceleration of the vaccine production but not the encouragement of taking it. General Mattis, a recognized expert, was forced out. The advisors could stay if they kiss up to him. They were unable to disagree. Only yes men were kept.
Relevant to this thread, Trump has Jewish grandchildren and those Jewish politicians often not …
RebE, good, so when you start looking into that, you see certain things! I am primarily discussing this not for the zchus of politicians but for my concern that we can’t talk ehrliche between each other.
For his cabinet, for example, you need to give him credit for having people like Mattis, Bolton, Pompeo, Lighthizer, Esper, Barr, Sessions, Azar, DeVos, Haley. These are all independent thinkers and actors, often with ideas different from Trump. Yes, he fired some/most of them eventually, but he hired and listened to them first. I just googled Biden, and I see one person who had an independent career outside of being a politician or Biden’s staffer – Janet Yellen. Obama – maybe 2-3 people.
tax breaks for the rich – most significant change was restricting rich people from writing off expensive mortgages and local taxes. Dictators: pressing Europeans to stop Russian pipeline, restricting Chinese companies, forcing Europeans to pay more for NATO. Covid – US mortality is indeed 2x worse than comparable countries – and even worse after Trump, as well as vaccine attitude. Biden, similar to Trump, declares victories periodically because it is politically convenient, except there is nothing like Warp speed, remaining issues are not addressed. In all of the above, you seem to be upset at some Trump speeches, without judging fairly his actions that are in public record. After all the learning you had, RebE, you should be able to be a shofet tzedek.
How many of the independent thinking advisors made Trump change his mind?
Trump has had a bad attitude from the outset. I am a stable genius, know better than anyone else and have know need to listen to my advisors.
@Reb Eliezer
Who cares about his attitude? I care about results. He’s a brilliant businessman who, without any prior political experience, was by far the best president ever. All this without taking advice from his advisors.
> How many of the independent thinking advisors made Trump change his mind?
One clear one is postponing withdrawal from Afghanistan. In other cases, I don’t have insight in how worked on the inside, but the people I mentioned above all pursued their favorite policies. I don’t know whether T listened to them from the beginning and let them do what they think are right or change his mind later. for example, Bourla reports that when T called a WH meeting of pharmaceutical CEOs, everyone was talking medicines but Bourla’s rep suggested that the vaccine can be developed fast enough to be relevant. T immediately jumped on the idea and supported it.
I think eliminating Iranian terrorist leader was Bolton’s idea. Not sure who developed strategy if finishing off ISIS. Lighthizer pursued his tough line dealing with China …
Decided Democrats take the Senate and Republicans the House.
CS: Trump doesn’t have yiddishe grandchildren. A Reform conversion, even if he calls it “Orthodox”, is no more valid than any other Reform/Conservative “conversion”.
@drosenbaum
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Another point lost on many is that the Republican party continues to diversify in terms of candidates, …While I do no endorse toeiva, Zeldin had a lesbian running mate and George Santos won his congressional seat on Long Island. We’re living in interesting times.”That’s certainly nothing to celebrate. “Interesting” is hardly the word. try “horrifying”.
this is a new low – with so many mitzvos towards gerim, questioning a giyur by a legitimate Rav because you don’t like it
There are people who think they know better than rabbonim. A Korach spirit. Recently, I dealt with someone who was a ger. The geirus was performed by a Modern Orthodox rabbi and subsequently, an ishur was written on behalf of this ger by none other than HaRav Gedalia Dov Schwartz, zt”l. Yet this person was given a hard time by a rabbi who is a relative nobody.
BH in the congressional district where I live in NYC, it wasn’t even close. Malliotakis trampled little Max Rose. He’s a sniveling coward and liar.
I think the best part of this election is that we won’t have to hear from little Max Rose, Beto O’ Rourke, Stacey Abrams, or from Pelosi as House Speaker ever again.
dovrosenbaum,
A man who was a platoon leader in Afghanistan and has a bronze star and purple heart is the exact opposite of a sniveling coward.
He lost in a district that is highly Republican to an incumbent.Do you have an explanation?
Why didn’t the republicans win more Senate seats?
I haven’t heard any really strong good reasons yet.They didn’t win more seats because of the brainless people who are programmed to vote Democrat without thinking of the damage that it’ll cause and because it’s easier to vote Democrat than to get a job, raise a baby that you don’t want, stop committing crimes, get psychological help if you’re attracted to someone of the same gender or paying off student debts for degrees that won’t pay for themselves such as gender studies.
It may work in the short term for those who voted Democrat but it’ll hurt them in the long term.
I’m very confident that if there was an exam requirement to vote (that showed that the voter knows what each party represents) the outcome would be different.
Flawed candidates is the reason?
Every candidate has flaws. Put an R after there name and they were supposed to win big .I do not have the time to check into every congressional race.
Ask the people in the districts that flipped why they decided to flip and we will know.
I don’t know.We all know that there was expected a red tsunami.No matter how flawed the candidate was.
It was expected because of inflation, crime, Biden, morality, etc…
It did not happen.
DP,
We have the exact same opinions and views.
It just so happens that my opinions are about Republicans and yours are about Democrats.
Could be all Democrats are brainwashed.
Could be all Republicans are brainwashed.The truth is Hashem runs the world. That we agree upon.
You’re comment couldn’t be further from the truth. Our opinions are a complete opposite.
I hold that you can’t lie or purposely distort the facts even to promote a political party that doesn’t push agendas that are diametrically opposed to the Torah while you have no issue lying and purposely distorting facts to promote a political party that purposely promotes agendas that are diametrically opposed to the Torah. (Unless you know that it’s wrong but justify it because you want to make sure your opinion is heard.)
People who vote Republican vote that way because they take responsibility for themselves and want others to do the same. People who vote Democrat do so because it’s easier to vote Democrat than to get a job, raise a baby that you don’t want, stop committing crimes, get psychological help if you’re attracted to someone of the same gender or paying off student debts for degrees that won’t pay for themselves such as gender studies.
The people that I know that vote Republican at times voted Democrat until the party went too far to the left and fell off the cliff- hardly the kind of people you can accuse of voting Republican because they are brainless or brainwashed.
“People who vote Republican vote that way because they take responsibility for themselves and want others to do the same.“
Dr Pepper,
I don’t think you can generalize like that, I vote Republican because I feel that they will help me more than democrats would
A democrat might vote democrat because he feels they care for people more and want to help people who are struggling and the way to do that is to force people with money to give them money because they wouldn’t if they weren’t forced
Cs,
I agree a lot of house if representatives politics is local.
That is why I have no idea the reasons for the wins and losses.However, once you admit to that, it takes all the thunder away from Kevin McCarthy.
He was not given a mandate to do anything.
The only thing he has is his promise to the most extreme and stupid member of Congress MTG to spend the next 2 years not doing a single thing to help Americans.@coffee addict
If you think about it what it comes down to is that Republicans want people to take responsibility for themselves and the booming economy that former President Trump created made it easier for most people to do that.
Democratic politicians, on the other hand, do not care about anyone- they just care about their votes. They’re trying to create a society where it’s almost impossible to take responsibility for yourself and you become reliant on the government and continue to vote in those politicians.
If you say that you vote Republican because it’ll be better for you I’m going to guess that you take responsibility for yourself.
You’re correct that I was generalizing too much so I’m going to split it into a few more categories. Those that vote Democrat either:
1. Feel bad for the people who don’t take responsibility for themselves and mistakenly think that voting Democrat will help them and:
2. People who don’t take responsibility for themselves because:
A. The Democrats created a cycle of poverty that they are purposely keeping them in or
B. They legitimately can not take care of themselves due to a mental handicap or physical handicap.
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