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All,
You don’t need to agree with what you perceive as YU’s hashkafos, but please reserve the right not to comment on what you don’t understand.
1- YU’s beis medrash is a tremendous makom Torah. More than half of the undergrads, that’s 600+, choose to learn until 3pm before starting their afternoon courses (although there are different options that would end at 1pm). The large majority of those also learn at least a 2 hour night seder after their classes, with a respectable tzibbor remaining in the beis well past midnight. That’s besides the 150 or so avreichim learning in the kollel. While BMGs beis medrash is obviously larger, it would be hard to find 600+ mevakshim in too many other other yeshivas.
2- I doubt that anyone here, myself included, has the ability to rank talmidei chochomim, but based on what I’ve heard from a wide range of Roshei Yeshiva both in the States and in EY, Rav Schachter is undoubtedly a gadol and perhaps the biggest talmid chochom in America. Might be worth discussing with your own Roshei Yeshiva before commenting.
3- YU’s beis medrash is packed with dozens of Rebbeim, talmidei chochomim and poskim- some ‘home-grown’ and others who came from other ‘standard’ yeshivas. To name a few: Rav Schachter, Rav Willig, Rav Twersky, Rav Sobolofsky, Rav Eli Baruch Shulman, Rav Elchanan Adler, Rav Aryeh Lebowitz… plus a team of Mashgichim to further help foster the talmidim’s growth.
4- And for those who were questioning, from what I understand, there are two basic reasons the stronger bochurim are opting for YU over Landers. 1) L’maaseh, it’s a stronger beis medrash. 2) They’re also interested in the more respectable education/degree. In terms of the talmidim who are not learning until 3, BH most of them are still learning to some degree and certainly benefit from being in the Jewish environment rather than risk getting swallowed up on a secular campus.
5- Again, you don’t need to agree with everything that happens at YU, but please learn the facts before passing judgment.