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Zushy: It’s indeed very painful, and that’s the purpose of the punishment. From my memories I remember the teacher laying down misbehaving children on his desk flat on their stomach, then smack their behinds with a wooden stick or ruler, it wouldn’t take few seconds until the child was bowling with tears. Believe me it was very painful and it worked. But indeed in my opinion I would better side with the latter punishment which is over fast, than a long during and perhaps a little dangerous punishment that you described, I think this kind of punishment and anything similair, like holding a bunch heavy books for a while, or holding the hands high up for a while should never be used in any case. A good portion of petsh can perhaps sometimes be healthy and benefiting.