Mentch
“Your comparison to roe is limited at best. Roe was bad law with no constitutional backing.”
Roe is but one example.
My point is “the reality of the Supreme Court decisions .” is nonsense. Supreme court decisions can and have been overturned.
Again I understand that you think Roe was bad and Heller was good. My point is that once the Supreme court has spoken conversation is over is simply incorrect.
” and logic is on the side of private ownership.”
History isnt, though.
And even if it was it clearly allows regulation (both based on history and text)
and even if it didn’t that doesn’t really argue WHY we should live this way (whcih was the OP’s question) it just shifts the blame/ Ok so we are stuck with a constiution lets chaneg it and if not why not ? ((rhetorical question I know why not, I explained in my first comment. But the reason why we Allow easy access to guns is not BECASUE of the constituion that just begs the question, why not chaneg the constitution)
“Ubiq
The tanach argument is fallacious”
I agree completely. Though Iwas not the one who commented regardign Tanach I dont think it is relevent at all, nor do I think a selective choosing of examples is meaningful
“But feel free to pack the courts with liberals who overturn the second amendment sometime in the next 50 years. By then we will have another 200 million guns in the hands of Americans. Then what?”
packing the court wont need to overturn, we can just interpret it the way it was originally undersatood. As to then what.
I dont know. buy back programs?
Ban further sales of ammunition?
I don’t know, (Though again I’m not calling to ban all guns so I’m not super worried about what to do) but the idea that people won’t listen is not a reason not to enact a law
I asked you this in the other thread.
Can you think of any other such example, where you oppose a law being enacted because people wont listen ? (we do find this by Chazal lehavdil) People use this argument for abortion, that people will just abort anyway and unsafely (which is obviously true) I don’t find that a convincing argument do you?
Is there any other potential law that you find this convincing?
“I think we can all agree on some measures. Especially mental health and background checks. And I fault the NRA and states for not implementing these measures.”
Agreement!