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Avram in MD
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Always_Ask_Questions,

“I saw a number of people of all genders working in chinuch who are burnt out with the lifestyle.”

“Working” in chinuch is not the same thing as full time learning in kollel – they are working and getting paid for working! Burnout is not exclusive to klei kodesh.

“As a shocking illustration, one complained to me that her husband did not want to move the kid to another school for several years because they both worked in the current school and it was “free”.”

Why is that shocking? Or specifically a “kollel” or more broadly a klei kodesh issue?

“But you are right, a lot of kollel wives are nashim chayil and do not complain here (although they have their own site).”

If you’re referencing the site I think you are, it’s an even more troll-infested place than here.

“And I am not at all claiming that something is majority or typical. I am asking – whether we have mechanisms to prevent abuses, however rare they might be.”

Do we have mechanisms to prevent workaholic husbands who never see their kids? Or latchkey kids who are home alone for hours after school? Why does klei kodesh need some sort of special mechanism that other adult-run families do not? These are general domestic issues that apply to all families whether the husband learns in kollel, teaches in a yeshiva, or is a high powered lawyer. And the mechanism is good, open, and loving communication between husband and wife, and parents and children.

“I out in-laws on the list of possibly non-kosher funding for the reason that if the in-laws are not doing it fully out of their free will, there is avak geneiva here.”

How are they not doing it of their own free will? Blackmail? Threats of bodily harm? Support us in kollel for 10 years or Bruno will make you swim with the fishies?

“My understanding that majority of Bavliim would come to the yeshiva for 2 months and go work the rest of the year while reviewing the masechet on their own.”

I think that’s flipped?