CBS2 HD reports: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told state TV that he will return to New York City once again for the 2008 United Nations General Assembly session, according to several online reports.
During his last stay in late September, thousands of protesters gathered outside the U.N. headquarters rallying against his visit. He had requested during that time a tour of ground zero, where he was denied permission to go and lay a wreath.
He also held a forum at Columbia University, where the school’s president welcomed him by saying he exhibited “all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator.”
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Okay boys, let the fun begin (i.e. NK-bashing, YW’s most self-congratulatory moment)!
What can I say. We live in Golus. If we get rid of Ahmadinejad another sicko will come to power. And if it’s not from Iran it will come from Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia etc.
We have to daven and hope that the Geulah should come speedily in our days!
Just watch, the Neturi Karta will be going on national tv and proclaiming that this Ahmadinejad is their Moshiach!
I suggest, not to talk during davening and Kriyas Hatorah. Many Gedolim said again and again that talking during davening and Kriyas Hatorah leads to harsh decrees for Klal Yisroel.
I know that there will be a commentator here that will bash me for writing about “talking during the Davening” that I should not try to guess and/or imply why R”L bad things happen to Klal Yisroel, therefore I am saying this as well. The Miselas Yishorim states in his Hakdoma that nothing in his sefer is his own Chadushim – that everything is public knowledge and he is just putting it in writing for those that WANT to know and remember.
That’s all for now.
BS”D
At which Monsey residence will he be fiering tish?
How does he enter the u.s.? Does he have citizenship or did he get a visa?
Joseph,
You can shortly begin Zionism bashing, (your most self-congratulatory moment).
i suppose he will be the neteurai karta’s guest speaker for a fund raiser.
Something’s wrong with this Picture. Why in the world would these Lunatics be so excited in welcoming this murderous tyrant? Something tells me there being paid off. Or at least I want to believe that.
Also, I think we in Kal Yisroel have a responsible to deal with these Traders. Whenever they come out and cheer for this animal, we should come out with steel pipes and show what happens when you go against your own. Maybe then
they will think twice before coming out.
give him a work visa, and send him to postville!
פסיקתא רבתי (איש שלום) פיסקא לו
אמר רבי יצחק שנה שמלך המשיח נגלה בו כל מלכי האומות העולם מתגרים זה בזה, מלך פרס מתגרה במלך ערביא, והולך מלך ערביא לאדום ליטול עצה מהם (והחזיר) [וחוזר] מלך פרס (והחריב) [ומחריב] את כל העולם כולו, וכל אומות העולם מתרעשים ומתבהלים ונופלים על פניהם ויאחוז אותם צירים כצירי יולדה, וישראל מתרעשים ומתבהלים ואומרים להיכן נלך ולהיכן נבוא, ואומר להם בניי אל תתייראו [כל מה שעשיתי לא עשיתי אלא בשבילכם, מפני מה אתם מתייראים אל תיראו] הגיע (ימי) [זמן] גאולתכם, ולא כגאולה ראשונה כך גאולה אחרונה, כי גאולה ראשונה היה לכם צער ושיעבוד מלכיות (אחרים) [אחריה], אבל גאולה אחרונה אין לכם צער ושיעבוד מלכיות (אחרים) [אחריה[
Since doing t’shuva is always a good idea when Yidden are in trouble, does anyone think that keeping quiet in shul is not a good idea? I think you have it right, Ithinkso2.
when this beast is enjoying himself here in america would be the best timing for israel to do their thing, since any move from the iranian side will have him arrested here in the US five star prisons…
Neturei Karta are Chayav Misa Because they embrace our ennemies and they are called a Mosar and the Din is Mosar is Chayav Misa. Many Chasidim do not like the Neturei Karta. If the Arabs were in Control of The Holy Land there would Chas Veshalom be no Yeshivos etc. May the pains to Klal Yisrael go away and may we merit the Coming of Moshiach speedily in our days.
11. Wow! Yasher koach for the mareh mokom
#9 nicely said!!!
BS”D
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Pointing out that the Ku Klux Karta of Monsey, Manchester and London, and their sidekick the self appointed Oberrabbiner Friedman of Vienna, are a bunch of nuts who support sonei Yisroel has NOTHING to do with accepting Zionism.
Reb Amram Bloy ZYA would not have been too pleased at these tzudrayters using the name Neturei Karta. And Reb Yoilish ZYA had very sharp words for them as well.
Zionism eliminated BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY? That is in the Hamas charter, not in Torah. The only proper means of eliminating Zionism (and every other form of kefira including Reform and Conservative) is by bringing Moshiach. Reb Yoilish ZYA did not want to see yenne medine demolished as at this point it would mean nothing but Jewish bloodshed.
BS”D
The difference between Zionist disregard for Torah and KKKarta disregard for the Torah is that the Zionists are tinokois shenishbeu who know no better………..and the Kartamen are shoitim who know no better!
To Blow the Neturei Karta argument out of the sky, which would be better for the Frum Yidden living in Eretz Yisroel?
-Have the PLO or Hamas in control?(Which would include deporting or slaughtering the infidels)
Or
-Have Israeli control?
#3:——>So going to a Holocaust denial convention, kissing Arafat…Is that all part the plan too?
The Bottom line is Olmert and company needs to be thrown out, Period. But don’t forget the Frum Yidden living in Eretez Yisroel. Think about how much more dangerous it would be for them if those Towel Heads took over? And as we know in the Torah, Danger to ones life overrides any mitzvah … Even Shabbos.
Some zionist history lessons for the uneducated:
Here is what Adolf Eichmann told Life magazine in 1960:
“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our attitudes in the SS and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic Zionist leaders who were fighting what might by their last battle. As I told Kastner: ‘We, too, are idealists and we, too, had to sacrifice our own blood before we came to power.’ I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal. He was not interested in old Jews or those who had become assimilated into Hungarian society. But he was incredibly persistent in trying to save biologically valuable Jewish blood—that is, human material that was capable of reproduction and hard work. ‘You can have the others,’ he would say, ‘but let me have this group here.’ And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews.”
—A. Eichmann, “Eichmann Tells His Own Damning Story”, Life Magazine, Volume 49, Number 22, (28 November 1960), pp. 19-25, 101-112; and “Eichmann’s Own Story: Part II”, Life Magazine, (5 December 1960), pp. 146-161; at 146.
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Here is some more about Kastner from the devils own mouth (his friend A. Eichmann ym’s):
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere . . .
In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest . . . Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price . . . was not too high for me . . . We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked cigarettes as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigarette after another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself. Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel . . .
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic Zionist leaders . . . I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal . . . ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews . . . That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
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Only Heinrich Himmler could turn off the liquidation machine. It was in 1944, the year of the assassination attempt on Hitler, when Reichsführer Himmler took over as commander of the Reserve Army, that he authorized me to propose an exchange: one million Jews for 10,000 winterized trucks with trailers. The World Jewish Organization could decide for itself what Jews it wanted to choose. We asked only that they get us 10,000 trucks. Thanks to Himmler’s directive, I could assure them, on my word of honor, that these trucks would be used only on the Eastern front. As I said at the time, “When the 10,000 winterized trucks with trailers are here, then the liquidation machine in Auschwitz will be stopped.
In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest. One man stood out among them, Dr. Rudolf Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation and even keep order in the collection camps if I would close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price of 15,000 to 20,000 Jews – in the end there may have been more – was not too high for me.
Except perhaps for the first few sessions, Kastner never came to me fearful of the Gestapo strong man. We negotiated entirely as equals. People forget that. We were political opponents trying to arrive at a settlement, and we trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked cigarettes as though he were in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigarette after another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them with a little silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel. But the Arrow Cross, the Hungarian fascist party, had grown strong and stubborn. Its inspectors permitted no exceptions to the mass deportations. So the Jewish officials turned to the German occupation authorities. They realized that we were specialists who had learned about Jewish affairs through years of practice.
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our attitudes in the SS and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic Zionist leaders who were fighting what might be their last battle. As I told Kastner: “We, too, are idealists and we, too, had to sacrifice our own blood before we came to power.”
I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred- thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal. He was not interested in old Jews or those who had become assimilated into Hungarian society. But he was incredibly persistent in trying to save biologically valuable Jewish blood, that is, human material that was capable of reproduction and hard work. “You can have the others,” he would say, “but let me have this group here.” And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews.
At the same time Kastner was bargaining with another SS of official a Colonel Kurt Becker. Becher was bartering Jews for foreign exchange and goods on direct orders from Himmler. A crafty operator, Becher had come to Hungary originally to salvage a stud farm which the SS wanted. He soon wormed his way into dealings with the Jews. In a way, Reichsführer Himmler was Becher’s captive. Becher showed me once a gold necklace he was taking to our chief. There were other agencies, German and Hungarian, which tapped Kastner for foreign exchange in return for Jews, but I held aloof from money affairs and left the material transactions to Becher.
Men under Becher’s command guarded a special group of 700 Jews whom Kastner had requested from a list. They were mostly young people, although the group also included Kastner’s entire family. I did not care if Kastner took his relatives along. he could take them wherever he wanted to.
Life, Vol. 49, No. 23, December 5, 1960, p. 146
Just watch-he will visit erev some yom tov dafka and all traffic will be backed up.
BS”D
Joseph, please post this wherever you see people trying to rehabilitate Kasztner OLBM. Lately, some Shoah revisionist has come out with a book vindicating him, and the Jewish left, including some who claim to be shomer Shabbos, are swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
This shows who Kasztner OLBM really was, in the words of the Soton himself. And it also shows that while we are well within our right to deride the Ku Klux Karta, that indeed the pre-state Zionists were far worse because unlike the KKKarta, they actually did damage and truly did collaborate with killers of Jews. And of course now the state continues to endanger Jews physically and spiritually in more ways than anyone can count.
On the other hand, the main damage done by the KKKarta is that they allow themselves to be used for propaganda purposes (and probably get a bissel oil gelt for it). In so doing, they tarnish all of us because your average person does not even know the difference between someone from Lakewood and someone from the KKKarta, let alone a Satmarer and a KKKartaman.
#25: All your assumptions are myths. I don’t live in Williamsburg, which you despise with its residents as Billiburg. Nor do I defend those who call themselves N.K. (who actually have no relationship to Rav Amrom Blau or the original NK). And nor do I wear chasidish levush, let alone Satmar. One need not be Satmar to see the truth about Zionism, Kastner, et al.
You have already disowned any belief in dan lkav zchus. Can you please define to the audience what that Torah concept means to you (if anything)? It certainly does not apply to someone who mass murdered Jews, like Kastner ym’s. This fact is merely augmented by Kastners friend Eichmann, who facing death had no motive to lie about his wheeling and dealings with his collaborating partner Kastner. It is well-documented in countless other areas. Even a Zionist Israeli court convicted Kastner of collaboration. And that conviction oh Kastner by his fellow Zionist occurred prior to Eichmann’s capture and his above interview.
Try some new assumptions. Maybe you’ll get it right one day.
Num. 25. If the ribono shel olam wanted to save the rebbe, which he obviously did, he would do so without kastner. So you can’t say that without whom you wouldn’t have had a leader.
Also, kastner had to allow some prominent leaders from hungarian jewry onto the train, even tho by and large kastner filled the train up with his own people. If he hadn’t allowed a small sampling of prominent hungarian jewish leaders, like the rebbe, it would have been obvious to everyone at the time what his gameplan was up to. So in order to keep the hungarian jewish masses quiet, and let the nazis exterminate the hungarian jews without too much trouble, kastner did what was necessary to keep his side of the bargain he made with the nazis.
You asked why OTHERS were told NOT to use that same means of survival? Because kastner filled up his train with his own people (with the few exceptions) and didn’t allow anyone else to board or be put on his list.
sammygol
You can’t be seriously suggesting ANYONE owes gratitude to that master rusha Kastner! Everything he did was designed to kill millions of Jews at the expense of saving his and his buddies skin!
No one, including those on one of Kastners slots, owes him an inch of gratitude considering the blood he spilled to achieve his ambitions and the price he paid in others blood to do what he did.
It must be a neis that the Satmar Rov got on, with Kastner deserving no credit. If Kastner had any choice he would’ve put anyone but the Rov on. Think about it for a moment. The Rov was widely known as the top anti-Zionist in Europe well before the war. What motivation could Kastner, a top Zionist, have had to include the chief anti-Zionist on the limited number of slots. The logic is outstanding.
It is a widely discredited lie that the Rov told others not to escape. Do you have a SINGLE reliable source for that canard?
BS”D
Hashem sometimes gives the worst reshoei amecho a chance to do something which gives them a shot at tshuva. Such was the case with Kasztner OLBM when he saved not only Reb Yoilish ZYA but IIRC Rav Yonason Stieff ZYA as well. There are two stories as to the reason he included the rabbonim and their families on the transport. One is that he wanted it to look representative of all Jews in danger; the other is that an elderly relative of Kasztner’s insisted that he save the rabbonim.
I know of an out and out ganov who has cheated Yidden as well as banks and corporations out of millions. I believe moisdos are also among his victims. He is a menuval first class who flaunts his ill gotten gains in the most flagrant and disgusting way. He also happens to have adopted a sick child.
Sammy – what’s Billiburg?
willi – One of his many disparaging innuendos towards people who are unlike him or his outlook. You see such usage frequently utilized, especially towards those with “fur hats and long coats” (to use his terminology.)
If so, then he probably loves my name… It’s an abbreviation of a city that rhymes with “Billiburg”… 😉