Sorry about the delay. i Just saw what you asked.
I hear, you have a good point. Maybe this is different, because the official job description was teaching girls, you are under scrutiny and have to behave. In the case of the gemoro there was no official interaction between the boy and the mothers so they could have got away with some mischief….
The tirutz is a Doichak.
I think your best bet would be to ask one of his sons themselves –
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