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Avi K
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Avira,

1. The yaldei Tehran and Teimanim claims have been debunked by various inquiries, inclyuding one by Menachem Begin’s government , which had an interest to discredit Labor.
2. The IDF is designed to defend Am Yisrael.
3. The Declaration of independence mentions צור ישראל. Do you not believe that this is Hashem?
4. it is a known fact that gedolei Yisrael told Jews not to leave Europe.
5. Where did you get that bit about tefillin?
6. The State definitely is the representative of the Jewish people. If you don;t believe our enemies will tell you otherwise.
7. Dina d’malcuta dina. The state must give religious freedom because then Jews in other countries will not be given religious freedom. This is the state of the world today. ידנו לא תקיפה .
8. Control? Wanting kids to be taught skills so that they can be productive citizens and get off welfare?
9. Who claims that the Bagatz is the Sanhedrin?
10. What caricatures? Anyway, the solution to that and your other claims is for frum Jews to make aliya, accept citizenship 9which many hareidim refuse to do while enjoying all the benefits as “students”) and vote.