“It’s not “what is this inside me” everyone knows that there’s a baby developing”
Yes a baby is developing. Not developed, developing. At what point is this developing baby considered a life.
Halachicly it is clearly a intermediate stage,, it is a “davar shell bo l-olam” you can’t acquire things for it. If it is threatening life it can be killed, yet once born something changes now they are threatening each other.
And you use the term chazaka dimikira. A. That is not how chazaka works chazaka doesn’t tell you things retroactively ot has the chazaka NOW and more importantly b. I’m not Asking you for a halachic reason, I’m familiar with the poskim, including what is followed in practice. My question is from a societal standpoint which is what your argument was addressing. You said if unsure if its a life,, then abortion should be illegal just like killing a person who might be asleep or dedicated is illegal. This is not a halachic argument. As you opened that section ” Goyim often use the line of “it’s not a baby, it looks like a fish”, and they say that the burden of proof of what’s considered alive falls on us who wish to forbid.” Responding to them with a chazaka dmikira (even if used correctly) doesn’t help