I think I align more with Torahvaluesoverparty. I come from Chicago so I would never even expect an election to be without fraud. I don’t assume the election was stolen, but i had seen enough fact manipulation and high government cover ups to believe that people would happily rig an election to oust trump.
Having said that, I refuse to jump on bandwagons without understanding the facts. I looked at lots of tapes and depositions (NOT news reports) from poll workers, i know of people personally who had their ballots manipulated, i saw some questionable stuff at my own polling place and conclude that there are a lot of questions. In light of these questions, i assumed that if there was not mass fraud there would be quick transparent audits to stick it in the pro trumpers faces that they lost. All the hiding and refusal to comply has done more to make me suspicious than anything else.
Do i think there was fraud? Of course. There is always fraud. Do i think there are people in high places who would do anything to get trump out of office? Of course. Many have said as much. Do I think the election was rigged? I didn’t. But now i don’t know anymore because honest people don’t usually work this hard to avoid proving themselves.
I would not even be shocked anymore if they find out trump really won (probably more likely due to hundreds of individual fraudulent moves than one big coordinated one) and they just don’t bother reporting it. They don’t even have to supress things anymore, they just ignore them.