Purim

We have RJJ in Staten Island to send shloach monos for you, so you don’t have to do it yourself.

MKYLB speaks emes. Nearly 400 Israelis died last week and that number may grow over the next 4 weeks as the new virus strains become more prevalent. In the U.S. the infection rates in frum neighborhoods remain well above national averages. Yet there still seems to be some reluctance to shut down larger gatherings, whether chassanahs or Purim parties. How many levayahs will it take to convince the leadership of the tzibur to come to their senses. Is shaach monos and megillah read more important that the lives put at risk?

Common Saychel: Thanks for the vote of confidence. My most recent test scores were at 0.738 percent so I am well above your threshold for recognition of my psak on foregoing shalach monos this year.

According to my records your at .008 so you opinion does not matter

He said archive half of 1 percent.
I guess that means having 1 pct and using half of it?

Putting aside the mathematical skills of common saychel et. al., does anyone who has looked at the YWN news page in the past 48 hours really believe that its OK to participate in large gatherings for Purim or any other reason right now, irrespective of which Rav may have endorsed the same or hopefully urged against it? It seems like there has been an acceleration in the number and rate of chashuvah rabbonim having been niftar from Covid, or maybe its just my imagination.

Commonsaychel- you are correct in what you say. However, the poskim had been speaking out and you have advocate against their psak.

GH – 👍🏻

@Syag, I dont “advocate” for anything in regards to Covid, I ask my daas torah what I should do and I follow his advice, I certainly dont have the chutzpah to tell a godol what to say

No offense to all the lomdim who are members of the coffee room, I will wait until closer to purim and see what my poseik says what to do about shaloch manos.

>> shaloch manos.

R Schechter reminded that this is a good year to follow Rambam on spending more on poor than on friends

The RMA paskens SA O’CH 695,4 that if someone sends mishloach manos and the other does not want to accept it, he is still yotzei. The Chasam Sofer explains that the mitzva is the giving, to show love and unity, and not the receiving. According to this if he takes it himself and not by shaliach it should not matter and also if sent through the USPS. The halacha is in hilchas sudas Purim that the sudah should not be sudas kreso but sharing it with others. Therefore, says the Ksav Sofer, that if he has a good heart and wants to give a mishloach manos on Purim Katan, he can also make a sudah. The SA starts with yeriah and finishes with ahavah both tamid which is included in שני תמידים כהלכתם.

The shaliach is not the mitzva but a heiche timtzo, a means to get it to one, as according to the Rambam and the Kapos Teporim, the mitzva of shafor is not the blowing but the hearing the sound, so we make a bracha on hearng and not blowing.

So now Reb Eliezer is a self-proclaimed posek who uses taamah dikrah to extrapolate novel halachos that have no acceptable sources (unless you count YWN coffee room). Reb Eliezer, I would run that shtikle Torah by a competent Torah scholar before acting upon it or paskening for the masses. You can simplify the question at hand: “Can a goy act as an agent to deliver a shalach manos?”

As I referred above, I hope you still have 2 friends around you, then USPS for your remote relatives does not deter you from the mitzvah, and spend the rest on people who need help.

This is a great year to learn your priorities and separate d’Oraitos from heimishe minhagim. And learning to be meikil. If you learned in a yeshiva where they only teach the easy way – how to be machmir, you may want to call them and demand a free class on who to be meikil.

Yes, see Yehudah Yaaleh, 1,204 from Rav Yehuda Assad quoted by Rav Menasheh Klein in Mishnah Halachos proving that a katan can be a shaliach so can a goy because shelichas does not apply as I said before with siyata dishmaya.

USPS?
How about Amazon One Hour delivery? You can drink and order same day. I know this clashes with another thread.

CV: I dont pasken by the anonymous posters here in the coffee room. Ask your poseik if you can send through a goy. I was taught not.

שו”ת חלקת יעקב אורח חיים סימן רלד
אם אפשר לקיים מצות משלוח מנות על ידי עכו”ם
תשובה כהלכה להרב הה”ג וכו’ מר יצחק הכהן הובערמאן בעיר בולגריי הפולנית בעהמ”ח ספר מקבילות
הלולאות
אחדשה”ט כמשפט לשוחרי תורה
בדבר ספקו בא’ הדר יחידי בכפר ואין לו למי לקיים מצות משלוח מנות וצריך לשלחו לעיר על ידי עכו”ם אי מקיים המצוה כיון דאין
שליחות לעכו”ם
א) בפשיטות נלפע”ד שקיים המצוה, וכמו שהעיר כת”ה בעצמו דהרי אנו שולחים על ידי קטנים, ועי’ קידושין כ”ג והא קי”ל דיד עבד
כיד רבו וברש”י שם והא מעשים בכל יום ודף ל”ז תפילין אשכחנן רבנן דמנחי תפילין בבבל וב”מ ט”ו ב’ והא מעשים בכל יום וכו’ וה”נ מעשים בכל יום ששולחין על ידי קטנים הרי דלא צריך לשליחות. והסברא פשוטה – בשלמא גבי קידושין וגירושין ותרומה שהוא בעצמו צריך להיות המגרש או הנותן רק דהתורה גילתה דשלוחו של אדם כמותו ודוקא בבר שליחות ואי לאו לא הוי כמותו, אבל הכא
דעיקר מצוה היא המשלוח, אדרבה יש ספק אם נתן בעצמו אם קיים המצוה, עי’ מ”ב תרצ”ה, אם כן מה איכפת לן אם אינו בר
שליחות ואינו כמותו, סו”ס קיים המצוה ושלח, וזה עיקר המצוה, וזה ברור, וראיתי באיזה מן המחברים סברא זו

They also say that if the mitzva woulld be that you personaly must send then it would be a question if a goy is considered like you as there is no shalichus by a goy. However the MB O’CH 695 questions that maybe we need a shaliach and it is no good to send by oneself. Therefore, it just a means to get it to someone, shalichus does not apply over here and we can send it with a goy and also by yourself.

The above Yehudah Yaaleh view is also the Chasam Sofer’s view as indicated in reply #1944827 from the Sefer Mishnah Halochos by Rav Menasha Klein ztz’l allowing to send it with a goy.

>> ask the own daas torah

this is a legit shailah, but what do I do in general?

My “daas Torah” does not believe in “daas Torah” (and points out to Encyclopedia Talmudit that the concept is not in the Gemorah)?

The Daas Torah from the Maharsham of Brezon the grandfather of Rav Shvadron also qoutes the above Rav Yehudah Assad, Yehudah Yaaleh, O’CH 204 on the SA O’CH 695,4.

@always ask, the Jewish people always had a “moreh derech” since time kabolas hatorah, call it dass torah or other names it not relevant as to what it is called it is our mesorah, I know this does not match your or the OP agenda but that is the fact.
In Oz Yosher we say “vaymeanu behashem ubMoshe avod, first mishna in avos is moshe kebul torah msinai and it lists out the line of succession, the more recent histroy we had the GRA, Talmiday Bal Shem ZTL etc. in the recent past you had the Chofetz Chaim, Reb Chaim Brisker, Sanzer Rebbe ZTL
recently we had Reb Moshe, Rav Elyashiv, Satmar Rebbe ZTL, so your Rabbi and your encyclopedia can take the slow boat to China and no one will notice any difference

The generations become weaker in Torah knowledge. The Rabbenu Bachaya at the end of Parashas Ki Siso explains that mishna was written concisely as we could only write down what was necessary for understanding but as the generation became weaker, more became necessary. Therefore, in our psak, we rely on our previous poskim who were smarter than we are. I pointed out the ruling of the Chasam Sofer, Rav Yehudah Assad and the Maharsham which is being dismissed because of lack of knowledge. I don’t see the Encyclipedia Talmudis talking about a goy being a shaliach but you might want to look at the Sefer Piskei Teshuvas siman 695 referring to the above.