To masivta aliyah: My point is: even a Jew in basketball attire can be frum, can lead a minyan, not just count for a minyan.
Frankly, many bochurs, and Yeshivish Jews too old to be bochurs, dress in black suit and white shirt, but do not look respectable, because the suit is unpressed, the shirt is unpressed and even untucked, and the tie is loose. And yet they think I am not properly dressed in my well-pressed tan suit, white hat and properly pressed shirt, with no tie in summer.
I think no tie is better than a loose tie. Discuss.