@Ubiq,
I’m sorry if i miss any points in responding to your q, as i dont have time to follow the whole thread, i would also say that the little i saw form kluger was something i would agree with, I think he puts forth a very strong argument, however to say it in my own words..
I did not vote for trump, I couldnt stand the guy, and those who are his fans still irk me till today. However, with all the lying and everything else, He delivers. And his heart is in the right place.
I cannot say the same for any democrat, maybe they do have the right ideas, but if its ok to hand one mans earnings to another what does that say about you?
BUT YOU ASK ABOUT REPUBLICANS, and to that the answer is, I am not pro republican, I’m pro people who attempt to do the right thing, so show me who they are and i’ll vote. So you’ll offer cruz, pence, and romney [yes i meant that], The problem with that is they arent willing to get dirty in a fight, for whatever the reason. I think that its similar to a situation we had as Klal Yisroel, Lehavdil elef havdalos, With Yiftach, who was not the greatest of The Yidden [though surely he was great] yet chachomim saw that he had the ability to be the one to lead Klal Yisroel at that time, so they chose him. [CH”vsh, to even compare Yiftach to Trump, that isnt my intention, my intention is to show however that sometimes in a society, you take an effective leader over a ‘most virtuous’ one.] I therefore dont let silly mannerisms bother me, After all, manners are not the be all and end all of what a person is. Far from it.
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