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klugeryid
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Yes I agree to your rendering of what Josef said. No need to sound the exact words.
However my point is,
You cannot ”point” to anyone, to say he spoke negatively about them.
In my hypothetical examples, In the first case the fellow has tarred ”all” satmar. Hence he has made an accusation on specific people. That is wrong.
In the second example he has openly tarred a specific group.

Here, who has he tarred?
All jews?
Not at all!
He specifically stated its only the sinners that he is referencing.
Who are they?
Nobody can point a finger and say he meant that guy.
He meant nobody specific.
As soon as someone goes ahead and does the act, yes In retrospect he meant ”him ”
But at that point there is no issue judging because (and here the second issue needs to be brought to bear) it is OK to judge a person who knowingly does something wrong, negatively.
(even if you personally were to want to be stringent in the issue, and hold like those who say you can judge everyone favorably, he has the right to hold like those who say in such a case it’s actually forbidden to judge favorably. So here there is a clear way to judge someone (Josef) favorably for an act that In your eyes is wrong. Simply by granting him the right to hold by those who pasken that it would be forbidden to do otherwise)
As I said before, as a proof to his correctness, I brought a piece from the Chafetz Chaim where he does the exact same thing.
He writes in his sefer that those who sit and talk between mincha and Mariv instead of using the time to learn, end up committing a whole list of severe sins.
Is there any material difference between saying that and saying anyone who watches the super bowl commits a whole list of sins?
Anyone who defends watchers of the super Bowl commits a whole list of sins?
We see from the quoted Chafetz Chaim that it is OK to say anyone who does…. Commits a whole list of sins.
If it’s good enough for the Chafetz Chaim, I suspect it’s good enough for Josef.
So as I said I now understand where you were coming from but I think you are wrong