In the shadow of ongoing efforts to pass the chareidi draft bill into law, the Moetzas Gedolei Yisrael of Agudas Yisrael is scheduled to meet on Thursday, 25 Menachem Av 5773. The date was chosen to accommodate the Vishnitzer Rebbe Shlita, who returns to Eretz Yisrael a day earlier.
The admorim will discuss the threat of the draft as well as the blow to funding to yeshivos.
(YWN – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)
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1.There are three frum political movements (Agudah, Degel ha-Torah and Shas), not to mention the anti-zionist Eidot hareidiot.
2. The reduction in funding is a mere nuisance. Compared to fifty or 100 years, even the poor in the frum community are living well.
3. Conscription is motivated totally out of a hope by the zionists that it will undermine and destroy the Torah world. The finanical measures, while reflected that hatred of bnei Torah, also reflect that the State of Israel is living well beyond its means.
Finally, a real discussion is due!
Baruch Hashem. Klal Yisroel will soon have guidance on how the Torah wants us to react to this gezeiras shmad.
Perhaps our Torah leaders will advise us to refuse to enlist and those already enlisted will go AWOL.
To No. 3
Rather than assuming these rabbonim will advise the klal to disobey the law, perhaps they will show some real leadership and seek to find some compromise on this issue and avoid further polarization. Obviously not 100 percent of chareidi bochurim need to be sitting in kollel and the real issue is how to decide which ones should get the draft deferrals. They should also consider some alternative forms of public service so that those who don’t want to serve in the IDF, can spend a year or two working in hospitals, schools, or other mosdos and perhaps learn a skill which they can use to earn a parnassah once their public service is completed. Following a “just say no” strategy will get them nowhere and futher divide the chareidi tzibur from the rest of EY.
Lets hope that they also talk about how they will give back to Am Yisrael and the Chayalim.
The best alternative is to enlist as many Jews as possible into full-time Torah study — which is the best form of protection.
They will declare that this is a gezarat sumac and it is forbidden to enlist even if it means going to jail
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Who did and left you in charge of deciding which yid should be learning and which should not?
I dont know your background but clearly it is one where one gives in. When one gives in without getting anything for it, one is STEPPED ON.
Besides for that, there can be NO compromise when it comes to torah and observance. Those who have compromised, are on the outside looking in.
To Gadolhadorah who said ” Obviously not 100 percent of chareidi bochurim need to be sitting in kollel and the real issue is how to decide which ones should get the draft deferrals” — IF you are zionist your statement is rational. Religious Zionists believe it is a mitzvah to have medinah even if not based on Torah, and therefore see the Arabs as agressors, and therefor consider it to be virtuous, or at least acceptable, to kill Arabs.
If you are not a zionist, as at least a tenth of Hareidi were not prior to January (I suspect the number has greatly increased), then the only alternative for those not learning full time is to engage in parnassah-producing activities (as most do at present, albeit illegally).
If the Israelis attempt to conscript those opposed to zionism, they will encounter serious resistance – and attempting to engage in mass arrests or expulsions of anti-zionists will not only cause pro-zionist hareidim to be unwilling to cooperate with the medinah, but will serious discredit the zionist cause in the eyes of its many non-Jewish supporters throughout the world.