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Abba a,
You have the most convoluted logic. People who don’t want secular education but would vaccinate, would withhold vaccines to their children just to put them in a non secular education homeschool? Huh? Why would they have to withhold vaccines to go to this homeschool? Also, if homeschool is the way to get out of secular education, why wouldn’t they put together a vaccinated group?
As to your next point, and this has been gone over so many times, there are children who are medically not able to get vaccines, they rely on being the exception to the rule, so that if everyone is vaccinated and can’t bring in measles, these kids will be safe in the herd immunity. Every additional kid who is unvaccinated increases the chance that someone will bring measles into the school. Additionally the vaccine is 97% effective so if someone brings measles into a school with a couple hundred kids, statistically speaking there will be a handful of vaccinated kids who also catch the disease.
As to the AIDS point, I think you proved that you dont understand how diseases spread. If HIV spread as easily as you wrote, anyone who took a subway or played in a public park could catch HIV. That’s not how it works, it’s actually difficult and rare to catch HIV in an instance where you dont have direct contact. Even with direct contact you need very certain specific bodily fluids(saliva or sweat don’t do it, it has to be blood, etc) to come on contact with a mucous membrane or directly into the blood flow. Unless someone has an open sore in the mouth they are not catching HIV on their mouth. Measles on the other hand spreads through the air the sick person breathes. To ask if I would rather have an AIDS kid in the class while implying that that means other kids will catch AIDS is either ignorant or disingenuous.