16 Responses

1. The Jules Streicher model of community relations (and no, I am not suggesting the same end for Lapid as Herr Streicher and his friends met – we should prefer they do tseuvah). But we need to realize we are dealing with people with similar characteristics, and be wary.

2. “everyone must share the national burden” – Does that include Arab Israelis?

3. And just bcuz I wear a kipa doesn’t make u kosher what lowlives

4. What parasites have to do with army? Who gave this guy a smith and?!

5. Fyi since when does not kosher bother them

6. Piron is a fool. He usefulness to Lapid will end as soon as the coalition falls apart. It has been the same with all useful idiots throughout History. They never learn.

7. love it – the first comment – lets compare a Jew…a Shomer Shabbat Jew noch…with the people who killed 6,000,000 Jews! Shameful – chillul Hashem – disgusting – I have no words to describe it “Gaon nefesh”! Anyway – nobody here recognises or tries to understand how the rest of israel’s public receive the Haredi message – we feel that we live in a tiny country under constant & right now VERY real threat, where we served (or still do several weeks a year) where we send our kids to serve in the army…where all of us have either lost someone, or know someone who has died (or was seriously injured) in service of this country – its painful, its difficult & we do it because its our home, our land & our country for the first time since Hashem told us to leave 2000 years ago – indeed we’d have no place for anyone to learn Torah in Eretz Yisroel if we didn’t serve. We do that & the LARGE Haredi community never says one word of acknowledgment of that sacrifice & burden – in fact it not only says nothing but refuses to be part of that service for a variety of reasons – some being “we’re all learning & thats our contribution” … btw thats accompanied with “exempt us from tax too, & donate to our institutions”; We also hear “we won’t serve in the army because we dont believe in your state … now lets talk welfare…” or “you arent Jews..you’re Nazi’s..we don’t have ahavas yisrael…now pay the welfare or else”(akuperma’s shameful view).
   Thats what we hear…is it true? Is it the real story? Not entirely, but there is emes in what i say & the lack of ability for people here to see it from the other side is pathetic.
   All of us who want to live here need to be part of this state – that means if you want to spend 70 years learning then B”H, I for one support that (& wish I had more hours a week to learn than I do now)but you have to do your part too – you have to do it for the state , for Ahavas yisroel & because the current situation is clearly a Chillul hashem,

8. To akuperma: Why shouldn’t this rodef meet the same end as Julius Streicher?

9. What a jerk. With rabbis like these….

10. Mr. Piron is a rasha and parasite.

11. If this report is accurate, the education minister has certainly said something obnoxious, which impugns the genuine and sincere concerns of Hareidim about army or national service. He has done a disservice to the supporters of the share-the-burden requirement, and to the prospects for a cogent discussion of the substantive problems with a draft without exemptions.

12. to #8: “arizona says: May 29, 2013 at 10:14 am
    To akuperma: Why shouldn’t this rodef meet the same end as Julius Streicher?”

    Piron (and even Lapid) are still Jews. Even though people such as Piron are a bigger threat to klal Yisrael than the Nazis (let’s face it, we have Ha-Shem to protect us from blood thirsty brutes, we are on our own when it comes to the temptations of the affluent easy life one gets by going off the derekh), we should wish for them to do tseuvah rather than be killed by the goyim.

13. his smicha is toilet paper. he has not an ounce of daas torah, and no respect for gedolei yisroel. he will end up in the same place as korach.

14. What’s the problem?With the type of hechsherim he’s been gving he could make anything kosher!

15. While, it is sad that such sinas Yisroel exists, his transparency is highly appreciated.

    And his statement that “anyone wishing to be a citizen of the State of Israel must bear the burden” could generate some relief of the situation, as one could still be part of klal yisroel while not being a citizen of the State of Israel.

    On the other hand it should be noted that in the last 70 years the Haredim have served ha-shem and contributed to Klal Yisroel (the people of Israel) with chesed and kiruv, and never received any acknowledgment, but have rather been shunned and hurt by the media and the State of Israel.

16. #7- Unfortunately, you are wasting your time trying to reason with people that have twisted minds. Hashem y’racheim. They think they would be better off under arab rule. Too sick to contemplate…