“Although for a Torah Jew -they are the same – life is life.”
This is not true. Abortion and euthanasia do not fall under the same issur. I’m not justifying either, but there are important differences when it comes to the application of pikuach nefesh between a fetus and a partially or fully born baby.
Curiosity:
I’m a Trumpist Conservative. I doubt CTL thinks particularly highly of me or my opinions; the only reason it seems like he and I are on the same team on this particular thread is because I’m bothered by the way you guys are going about this. I don’t expect to ever convince you otherwise, but I’ll make my point anyway: the way “liberal” is defined in your conservative bubble is not how it is defined in the liberal bubble or anywhere else. Certain religious-right conservatives basically define their entire political affiliation on the issue of abortion and they assume liberals are just the inverse. Statistically that’s not true, and clearly it’s not true. If it makes life easier to define all American politics on the subject of abortion, that’s fine for you, but we don’t all have to accept that definition, and the assertion that it’s the “colloquial” definition is just baseless. Case and point, would you consider the current Catholic pope a conservative by your definition even though he’s basically an unabashed communist?