regarding this guy anonymous….he really needs a slap in the face to wake him up.
he continues to push his points, even where we don’t argue! he is in his own fantasy world, not reality.
He is talking to himself, not to anybody else, because he is not responding to anything that anyone else is saying?
HAKARAS HATOV
I would posit to say that even Joseph will agree with me that we should have hakaras hatov to the army for protecting jewish lives in Eretz Yisrael, correct Joseph?
NOBODY IS ARGUING ON THAT. STOP BRINGING IT UP!!
PRAYER FOR THE WELFARE OF THE STATE
let’s daven for the welfare of the state, Joseph I think would also agree that we should daven for the welfare of the state, as their are so many jewish lives hinged on the state. We should daven that the state is protected, and that people there should upkeep the Torah.
That has nothing to do with instituting a tefillah into davening, bkviyus. The mishna doesnt say to do so.
Nobody is arguing on this point, not me or you, exept that you for some reason need need need it to be put into davening! ok, so you NEED it in davening, we don’t, and on the contrary we perhaps “feel” that there are reasons to leave it out, THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE AGAINST A TEFILLAH FOR THE STATE, in our own davening to Hashem.
I have a strong feeling that you will either say that this post was a personal attack, or twisting the Torah, as those are the only responses you have given so far. Or perhaps you would yet again say that frum jews need to have hakaras hatov also.
if you do so, you will confirm that you are just trying to argue, but not get anywhere.