Reply To: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us!

Rso:
“They are relatives through marriage who were born in lubavich and who are considered “lubavich chassidish”in their lubavich communities.”
“Then you haven’t been shopping on Kingston Avenue lately and you certainly haven’t walked into the lobby during a lubavicher chasunah for a looooong time.”

Listen rso you’re relatives don’t sound very chassidish if your lubavitcher impression of tznius comes from them and judging by the posts you’ve written. I’ve been to one wedding that had untzniusdik mingling. And I didn’t feel comfortable there at all and left shortly after I came thanking Hashem that I had never experienced such a setting before and they werent my crowd of people. I have been to one lchaim of the same sort, also very uncomfortable. And one not chassidish friend of mine had her chosson hanging around her and she introduced him to her friends. Of course is was awkward but she’s not chassidish at all.

So total that’s three instances. I’ve been to many lubavitcher weddings which were nothing of the sort. In fact my own wedding we missed the picture coming into the hall (by accident) because my husband was advised by a married chassidishe friend that it isn’t appropriate for him to walk into the hall with me into the women’s section before going off to the mens.

I’ve also shopped on Kingston many times and you see all types. The most recent trip I made I was happily impressed by the amount of tzniusdikly dressed women – far majority.

My lubavitcher friends who come from previously heimishe / chassidishe non lubavitch families tell me that in general the standard of tznius is lower than the general chassidish community, but that our chassidish girls far surpass them.

Kimchis is famous for having seven kohanim gedolim. However we learn that many did like Kimchis but didn’t have such children. I learned that the reason why is because she did it out of an inner sensitivy to Hashem’s presence and yiras shomayim. Whereas the others wanted to have famous kids…

In chassidish non lubavitch society, dressing tznius is not necessarily an indication of sensitivity to kedusha and yiras shomayim, but an indication of communal pressure. Whereas the communities that don’t work off of communal pressure but on actual yiras shomayim have similar rates to ours. It’s tough nowadays and we all work to make it better.