Rso: “Yes, and I have proven it. Remember, my statement was that there has been no such thing for (at least) hundreds of years. Moshe Rabbeinu was the Nossi Hador. There were nesi’im of Shevatim. There were the nesi’im in Eretz Yisroel. But the concept Nossi hador as applied to someone in the last hundreds of years originated with the last lubavicher rebbe.”
So let’s just clarify, it’s not made up by the Rebbe, (because it’s mentioned in many heilikeh sforim,) just the Rebbe was the one that brought it up in the past generations.
So first why does that make it wrong? Second forget about the title of it, you can just look at how the Rebbe acted, for example before Roshe hashona he stood for hours excepting, panim from all types of yeddin for all walks of life, and on Roshe hashona before, tekios, he took all those panim and kevitulach, and put his talis over them and davend and cryed for some time before he blew the shofor. The same with the friediker Rebbe if you know what he did in Russia, and not only that he said many times that he doesn’t want to be the Rebbe for klal Yisrael, but rather a Rebbe like hi father, and that’s why he didn’t want to move to America, until he was just forced to.
Your not forced to accept it, you don’t have too, but this is facts that happened.
Rso: “(I was going to answer the question you asked immediately prior to the one I quoted above, but I thought that there’s no point stam offending you. וד”ל)”
If you can answer those questions please, both of them.
(I’m not getting offended, because I’m not saying my opinion I’m saying what big people hold. But still didn’t bringe a godel or Rebbe that says what you say)
Chossid: “but even then it is told that the Rebbe didn’t sleep a whole sukkis because of the chshash”
It was told from the maskirim that hong around the Rebbe. And took cyof him
The same it doesn’t make sense to you, it doesn’t make sense to me, but that’s what happened.
And in general he didn’t sleep really more then three hours a night, especially in the early years.
If you only knew a little about the Rebbes schedule, he didn’t sleep too much, especially after a whole night of yechidus, which went to the early morning.
And regarding the made up mishigas of writing to the igros.
Rso: from where do you get the fact that, “You are certainly in the minority in lubavich.”???
The fact is that ruboi kekuloi doesn’t write to the igros.
Now regarding criteria of being a godel or a tzadik.
Your entitled to your opinion.
But I will repeat again, you can’t make up facts according to your on desire, and way you learn, you have to base you shita on some what of a talmid chochom, godel or tzadik. And you should think twice before you come to a maskona, because first you should learn more of what a Rebbe is, and what the Rebbe was, what he was boki in and his day to day life. Second I think you are arguing not just with Lubavitch, but rather must of the chassidishe world, (which you said that you are chassidish.) and some litvish too, you should check up the book חד בדרא and many other books and sforim, and speak to mevinim, before you continue speaking of not holding the Rebbe as godel or tzadik.
Yeshivishrockstar:
First I apologize for not writing harav shach, he did know alot more then me.
“I have no intention of bringing up sukkah again here in this forum – my main intention was to demondtrate that it’s not merely sinas chinam when litvishers call certain chabadniks kofrim, but rather that there’s a basis for that.”
What the basis?
First for sinas chinom second that Lubavitch are koifrim.