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“Maybe the Chabbad that SH is referring to. But it seems to me that the chabbad (or lack thereof) of TamimTihiyu has more in common with neo christianity. The fact that it claims a basis in Mesorah / Chassidus doesn’t make it so any more the Helbrans making the same claim. Would you also claim that NK is based on Mesorah from the Satmar Rebbe?”
I don’t know what you mean by the Chabad of TT as he does seem to be a troll coming on to rile people up. But if you also meant mainstream Chabad ie quiet meshichists, that would be incorrect.
I guess some people have the impression that the meshichist thing is something some crazy chassidim have run off with and the Rabbonim etc just turn a blind eye to it for whatever reason. And I may have contributed to that assumption unwittingly. So I want to correct it.
I have a relative who wasn’t sure where he should stand on the whole “do we still consider the Rebbe to be moshiach after gimmel tammuz etc ” thing. He personally leaned more to the no side.
So like everything else in life he decided to ask his Rav. He specifically chose a Rav and Dayan who is known to be very mainstream and non extreme at all, very balanced, very knowledgeable and highly respected. He asked him what he should hold for himself and his family..the Rav told him we hold that the Rebbe is moshiach. (He also advised him not to say yechi.)
Just an anecdote of what goes on all the time. Mainstream Chabad are that way because of their Daas Torah who know a lot more of the sources involved than me and you. It’s not like they do it without Daas Torah. And yes there are Rabbonim who hold the other way, like sechels. And that’s why unlike NK quiet meshichists are not condemned by Chabad unlike NK is by the Satmar Rebbeim.