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Np ah I see what you mean I didn’t need to write that bit about the FR.

Regarding the estimation of Torah leaders I think my categories still stand. The Gerrer Rebbe, Baba Sali and reb zusia for example weren’t involved with writing halacha (as far as I know) and were still seen as tzaddikim..

What I meant by Eliyahu hanavi and har hacarmel was that rashi there says that someone who is known to you to be a tzadik (or whatever equivalent term is used), you follow him unless he tells you to serve another god or permanently cancels a mitzvah.

This shows that the criterion here is not a specific list – just he is known and trusted to Torah true Jews by his behaviour etc.

Also yes Torah true adherents add value. We see that ain melech blo am, and the Kings of today are the Rabbonim and Torah leaders. If someone tells you so and so is a Rebbe and he has two chassidim, you will think less of him than a Rebbe who has a thousand, because the fact that a thousand Torah true yidden have chosen him to inspire and guide their Avodas Hashem gives him more credence.

And lastly by learning their Torah we see what kind of person or Torah great they were. Like the Or Hachaim for example

And like we both said how he is seen by other Torah leaders of his time