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May 1, 2018 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1514538wonderjewParticipant
Where can I apply? what degrees or school will take my degree from Mir Yeshiva?
May 2, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1514595ToiParticipantBMG?
May 2, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1514581PhilParticipantwonder,
There are a number of master’s degree programs you can consider, such as Computer Science (i.e., Cyber-security). A graduate degree will definitely help you stand out from the crowd and employers won’t care that your bachelor’s is in “liberal arts”. On the contrary, you can present it as having trained you in logic and critical thinking. You’ll almost certainly need to take some relevant math and IT prerequisite courses before they’ll admit you. There are also master’s degree programs in Education that work in a similar manner.
Another very popular option is to study very hard for the LSAT and score very high on it, which can get you accepted into a very good law school. The only deficit that people who do so feel they have is in writing, so you may want to work on those skills before actually starting law school.
Hopefully, your BTL is at least regionally accredited and not just state accredited, which will make more options available to you.
Hatzlacha!
May 2, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1514552Midwest2ParticipantTry Touro in New York. They have many programs and they’re frum-friendly.
May 2, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1514554mentsch1ParticipantDoes Mir actually give a BTL or are you just trolling?
BH I turned my Ner Yisroel BTL plus a lot of science courses into a successful healthcare career.
Plenty of my friends went to law school with a BTL and a good LSAT . Same for med/dental school with prerequisites and good mcat/dat’sMay 2, 2018 7:21 am at 7:21 am #1514548☕️coffee addictParticipantGood luck
You’ll get further with a BLT than a BTL
May 2, 2018 8:40 am at 8:40 am #1514622screwdriverdelightParticipantTry Touro in New York. They have many programs and they’re frum-friendly.
They do accept credits from yeshiva, and they’re schedule accommodates the Jewish calendar. However they (the Brooklyn branch, at least) hire teachers who spout blatant k’fira. They do not deny the charges. They just say that those professors charge less.
May 2, 2018 9:48 am at 9:48 am #1514668zahavasdadParticipantA BTL with $2.75 will get you on the Subway
Unfortuantly a BTL has little or no value outside the frum world
May 2, 2018 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1514706ChalabiJewParticipantI used my yeshiva bachelor’s to take an online masters degree with Rabbi Lerner’s YIEP program, and I’m very happy with the results
May 2, 2018 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1514719wthParticipantA BTL is inherently not worth much, but as others have noted it can be used as a springboard to more useful credentials, and will save you a couple of years and thousands of dollars in getting a somewhat less pointless Bachelors.
Checkout Touro University Worldwide, which has a 1 year MBA online program. I don’t know with certainty that they will accept a BTL but it’s possible.
You may want to check with the Mir if they have hakpodos on how you use their credits.May 2, 2018 10:19 am at 10:19 am #1514729Takes2-2tangoParticipantA BTL will get u a BTL of coke and a chilli dog for under $10 at most kosher places
May 2, 2018 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1514899funnyboneParticipantWhat would you like to do? First decide on your career then decide where to use your credits.
I personally went to Touro where they accept either 48 credits for BA or 60 for semicha.May 2, 2018 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #1514898akupermaParticipant1. You can go to any graduate school that doesn’t require specific course work to get admitted, or you can take the necessary courses and rely on the BTL to meet the required undergraduate degree (this includes law and medical school).
2. You can apply for any job that requires an undergraduate degree but does not specify anything more, If there are specific courses required in addition to an undergraduate degree, you can take said courses.
May 2, 2018 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #1514827Takes2-2tangoParticipantYou may want to check with the Mir if they have hakpodos on how you use their credits.
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Hapados? Are you drunk or deliberate ignoramus?
The mir or any school/ yeshiva has no ownership on a students credits and if they say they do , they can be shut down in a moments notice.May 2, 2018 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #1514897zahavasdadParticipantAlot of the so called benefits of a BTL can be obtained without one, For example you can go to law school without any sort of degree (Its not easy, but there is a non-college track to get into law School)
May 2, 2018 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm #1514907Bored_on_the_JobParticipantFind a girl with a rich father to marry…
May 2, 2018 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #1514927oyyoyyoyParticipantTHink touro takes some of the credits but you’ll need lots more for a bachelors there. There are some accounting prgrams available that many frum people take but i dont know too much. There’s an accelerated masters in accounting program available from Pcs thru FDU that takes year and a half (maybe quarter) which i hear is very rigorous. But they have great placement and its a masters.
My best advice is to ask around, ask friends and friends of friends. People involved in school are usually helpful and like sharing/helping. Good luck!
I agree it does make sense, if you can, to figure out what you’d b interested in doing. A BTL may not help u that much for the job you like but it probably will be worth investing the extra time and effort.
May 2, 2018 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1514989Midwest2ParticipantUnfortunately, it seems that many careers that have been popular with yeshiva guys have become overcrowded. Law is one. If you go to law school you have to go to a really good one or get really top grades in order to get a decent job. Accountancy is also one of those “easy and light” fields that attracts an overabundance of frum students. Computer-related fields may be growing, depending, but you’ll need computer expertise (not just knowing what key to push) for any job nowadays. Stay away from for-profit schools. They take your Pell Grant and frequently don’t tell you that most of their graduates don’t get jobs.
Get professional job counseling before you spend any money. Agudah has Project Cope in New York, Baltimore has Joblink, and if you don’t live in either area, I’m sure if you call them they’ll give you contacts in your area. Don’t let anyone talk you into spending money until you’ve thoroughly checked out the job prospects for the field and the employment rate of the graduates of the school. “Asking around” is a good way to get information that’s misleading because people only have the knowledge of their personal corner of the job market. Get advice from the frum pros. That’s what our kehillahs pay them for, and they’ll help you find the field that suits your interests and will make you a respectable parnassah.
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