rational jew
” Comparing countries with gun laws to those without are not accurate at all since there are many many factors which influence murder rates”
When there are many countires the “many factors” become part of the “background” It becomes harder to argue that More guns leads to less crime, France is an exception because their police are corrupt, england is an exception because of their “culture” etc etc.
“And if you do check all the world statistics, you can see that there is in fact no correlation between gun laws and murder rates.”
Nope, and it isnt true on the State level either See “Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home” in NEJM 10/7/93 the study that may have led to the NRA pushing for a shutdown on the CDC studying the issue.
See “State-level homicide victimization rates in the U.S. in relation to survey measures of household firearm ownership, 2001-2003.” Social Science and Medicine. 2007; 64:656-64. where they looked at state level and controlled for other factors
“if you compare homicide rates before and after gun regulations in the same country, then you will find consistently that homicide rates go up after the ban.”
Nope. Australia. Even if it is true in some countries, it isnt “consistently”
“They may go down again years later due to other factors such as putting more police on the street.”
oooook. so lets have stricter gun laws AND put more police on the street. We will skip the inital spike and jump ahead to the lower homicide rates they have. sounds like a plan!