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🍫Syag Lchochma
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I don’t know what killing yetzer haras has to do directly with the conversation.

me neither. I don’t even know where you got that from. DY already said what I was gonna say, that we weren’t arguing about giving a kvittel, davening at a kever, building a connection even with a “dead rebbe” as you phrased it. The problem is the other side of that. When someone makes a connection with a Rebbe who was niftar and makes bakashos from him, when it comes to be, the response of the petitioner is that the rebbe succeeded in pleading his case to Hashem. Nobody would ever say the words, “let me tell you about some personal experiences I have had with the Rebbe” when referring to a rebbe who died before they were born. I have not found SY or you to make such claims, but CS has made many like this (including that one). That was one piece of what was being addressed in regard to communicating with someone who was niftar, it was the impression of the role that niftar is playing.

Ive lost both parents and two sisters. When I have a bakasha for something that one of them lived thru or helped others thru, I will specifically call out to them in prayer begging them to advocate for me. I speak to them directly, though they have died, and I believe their negius to both me and the cause will have more influence before Hashem than the prayers of a guf but I don’t believe for a second that they are orchestrating the salvation through their oneness with Gd. They are advocates. Any salvation they bring is Gds doing.

I know you know this. I am not hearing that it is universally accepted. I am hearing disturbing comments to the contrary. Saying they are disturbing is not being mean, it is following Torah.