Cont’ @ slobodka
“Are you even familiar with any other tzaddikim? Everyone else in klal Yisroel believes there rebbe or manhig is “the man,” but they believe there is a number 2, 3 etc. Who else does Chabad believe to be tzaddikim (even in the non Tanya sense) ?”
I’ve definitely heard of other leaders in am Yisrael, not familiar enough though to know if there is anyone else today who is a tzadik gamur of the Tanya. It also doesn’t help that whenever I meet someone not lubavitch, they don’t think so either of their Rebbe. I’ll be very happy to hear of more today. Not really fun being unique as the more tzaddikim the better.
“Unrelated, but I think that you and SY have given a dochek answer to our question of Atzmus Umahus. If you say that everyone has it and it’s just that the rebbe has it in a more practical sense because he has reached the level of a tzaddik acording to Tanya, then the rebbe should have made that clear in a Sicha.”
Important point. That sicha was never edited by the Rebbe. It’s an unedited draft of one of the farbrengen attendees. The Rebbe probably would have clarified and expounded if he would have edited it. As is, its just the unedited transcription of a talk, and the Rebbe was speaking to his audience who understood like we chassidim do.
“but even if your explanation is correct, how do you explain why there is no new rebbe today? Was the heintege rebbe more kadosh than the frierdiker rebbe?”
What does this have to do with the discussion? Separate question. Let’s finish this topic off first before jumping into another. You’re welcome to ask after we finish this one, or on a new thread (if you’re not sick of discussing lubavitch yet lol.)