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I was curious – some flights to Israel leave America during daylight and land in Israel the next morning. Has anyone ever been on such a flight during Chanukah? What do people do in terms of lighting candles? The super earliest time to light might be plag, but even that is already at 3:32pm, by which boarding has already began, and people can’t just light the menora at the gate and leave it there. I guess most people avoid this flight for different reasons, including chanukah, but am curious what people have done when super stuck.
They definitely don’t light on the flight. Imagine trying to get past security with matches, candles and/or oil!
Can they be yotzei by having someone light for them/with them in mind in their place of origin?You either light before dark (if your Rav/posek says its OK) or else simply skip a day and have someone light on your behalf and you rely on their lighting
This should be common knowledge
Lighting chnauka is a chov on a home dweller. Not on someone homeless nor on an airplane .Lighting a menora at a airport boardign gate would be a beracha levatala. (aside form practical issues involved)
M – see תוספות סוכה מ”ו ע”א who clearly learns it’s a chiyuv on a home dweller.
Neverheless, there’s a תשובה from the מהרש”ם about lighting on a train, saying that it could considered your בית for the night, which should apply to an airplane as well.
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M
Im not sure what you mean. It int based on any misunderstanding and it isnt a diyuk on a Gemara. (though it certainly is correct)
The Gemara in Shabbos is more detailed than תנו רבנן מצות חנוכה נר איש וביתו on 23a it discusses what to do when not at home. 2 options are offered contributing with the baal habyis and relying o a wife at home
Rashi (a very recent posek?) Says regarding the beracha of Sheasa nissim העובר בשוק ורואה באחד החצרות דולק ומצאתי בשם רבינו יצחק בן יהודה שאמר משם רבינו יעקב דלא הוזקקה ברכה זו אלא למי שלא הדליק בביתו עדיין או ליושב בספינ’:Meaning someone who is on a boat (and patur from lighting as he has no dira at that time) nonethless makes this beracha.
In One of the classic teshuvos on the subject the Marsham (very recent?) says a train is different as the seat is rented for the duration of the trip and thus is his dwelling. Arguably a plane is the same, but an airport is not. Sure it is possible he is mistaken an misunderstood the Gemara. though I have never seen anyone argue and I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say ” as is clear from an even casual reading of the Rambam, the mechaber”Like any traveller, you could get someone to light in your house.
Rav Scheinberg ztzvk”l put a notice up in his yeshiva, that yungerleit should get their wives to light for them, while they stayed in yeshiva learning. (I believe the notice went up every year and the yungerleit went home to light.)
Sefardi bochurim indeed don’t light in yeshiva, but are yotzei with their parents’ lighting at home.
There are other examples of people being yotze with someone lighting in their house while they are away.If someone is moving house that may be different. Then they have no bayis, and perhaps no chiyuv.
<joke>(if it was a chabad flight, does it need a menora on the roof?</joke> )
***Please don’t take offence, this is purely in jest and good spirit.***
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