Ageing Alone without Family in America vs. Aliyah with Family and Nothing Else

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  • December 16, 2017 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1428172
    Lightbrite
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    If you have a chronic medical condition that is not treatable with Israeli health care, and living in America will help you live longer, let alone provide you with the opportunity to fulfill mitzvot, but you have a better chance of ageing alone if you build your life in America, is it negative thinking to assume that you’ll end up living a miserable and sad life, and would be better off living in Israel?

    What takes priority?

    Thank you

    December 17, 2017 2:14 am at 2:14 am #1428276
    takahmamash
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    This question (if I understand it correctly) is something you most definitely ask your Rav, not anonymous posters on the internet.

    December 17, 2017 2:15 am at 2:15 am #1428278
    WinnieThePooh
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    America vs Israel is not really part of the equation. Even those who feel that there is a mitzva to live in E”Y today, the chiyuv does not over-ride pikuach nefesh, or parnassa needs, or chinuch needs, etc.
    So I think the question here – is it better to have better medical care but be alone or be with family and compromise on medical treatment? Considering that being with loved ones affects one’s health, quality of life and longevity, it is not a simple question.

    December 17, 2017 9:55 am at 9:55 am #1428327
    Lightbrite
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    WTP: Yes, thank you for explaining the question in better terms for me.

    December 17, 2017 9:55 am at 9:55 am #1428328
    Lightbrite
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    Takahmamash: It helps to hear other people’s stories and learn from my previous generations.

    As much as you can knock down the value of posters in the CR, each person here has the power to enrich someone else’s life by just sharing his or her perspective. This forum is beautiful.

    CR doesn’t replace a Rav, and a Rav is not a replacement for one’s community, neighbors, and everyone else’s life experiences that can aide one’s personal development.

    But I’m not here to convince you to talk to me… nor dispute the validity of your point.

    Maybe talking to a Rav is what I need… and maybe there is more.

    Thank you.

    December 17, 2017 10:24 am at 10:24 am #1428345
    Health
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    LB -“medical condition that is not treatable with Israeli health care, and living in America will help you live longer, ”

    Why can’t it be treated in Israel?!?

    December 17, 2017 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #1428951
    Lightbrite
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    Health: It’s a complicated medication thing that would need to be imported every month and paid for out of pocket…. several hundreds of dollars each month, at least.

    I’d need a doctor who’d agree to prescribe me this medication because in Israel they use a different go-to medication.

    And the kicker is:

    There is only ONE manufacturer’s version of this medication that I can take.

    I have adverse side effects when I take the brand name, two other authorized generics, and one other non-authorized generic. Basically, I’m really lucky to have found what works for me, and even now I can only go to specific pharmacies just so I get the right generic.

    If I had endless money, there is no say that Israel would let me even import the right generic for the rest of my life.

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