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Cont – @ MC
“U say “not succeed” is the same as killed. Ok, but then why write killed? “

I already gave you a simple logic reason why the Rambam could have singled out “killed” – my point is not exactly to explain and delve into the Rambam. The point is to show that whatever you derive from these Diyukim can be directed into many other simplified pshutim – without having to be “meChadsh” new Halachas and Hanachos- on why the Rmbam says “killed”.

ואם לא הצליח עד כה, או נהרג—בידוע שאינו זה שהבטיחה עליו תורה, והרי הוא ככל מלכי בית דויד השלמים הכשרים שמתו. ולא העמידו הקדוש ברוך הוא אלא לנסות בו רבים, שנאמר “ומן המשכילים ייכשלו, לצרוף בהן ולברר וללבן—עד עת קץ: …

The simple pshat in Rambam indicates that once the alleged Moshiach is “nistalek” Niftar” Dies” – the process is over – done with!

You want to say some other pshatim, you can say ANYONE can arise and be Mosheach, but as far as the above process goes, it is “לא הצליח” and over with.

And if you want to go with “Zochu”, then the Rebbe is by the most, as good as anyone else is. You cannot have it both ways.

Note – all the above is all based on the assumption that there was indeed any process of “chezkas Moshiach”. But as I have pointed out in the beginning of this thread – that has either not been achieved, and thus disqualifying him as the candidate all together, and despite Rav SB Wolpo trying diyukim shonim uMeshunim to say it doesn’t have to be achieved – the Mabi”t in Kiryat Sefer is very clear not like him. ואכמ”ל