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GH:

I agree that it is imperative that students adhere to the rules of the yeshiva. Encouraging rebellion is never positive. But the real issue here is different. That is, should the yeshiva be imposing these rules on their students? The fact is that they can make any rules they want, even if these rules make no sense. Any store can make its own rules, as it is a private enterprise.

But we would hope that our yeshivos are public entities, and are here to advance the continuity of Torah, thus performing a vital public service. If so, the rules must categorically be for the benefit of the students. So, pick the rule, and examine whether it serves the student, assisting in growth, education, or character refinement. If not, it is likely in place to enhance the image or reputation of the yeshiva, its hanhala, or to feed someone’s ego. The latter is shameful, and such policies and rules should never be made in the first place. I still think that compliance is important, but it is a few levels below stupid to think that is more important than helping every single talmid develop a connection to HKB”H and a passion to grow in Torah and Mitzvos.

Lastly, discipline that is common in many yeshivos today (there has been noteworthy improvement here, but nowhere near enough) is via consequences and punishment, which is distancing and potentially destructive. The true discipline that is critical to chinuch is guidance. As I have repeated so many times in the CR, revisit the many seforim from Gedolei Yisroel on chinuch. I am only expressing their agenda, based purely on Torah.