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It seems to me an unfair diversion for the hanhalah of the yeshiva to get up there and tell people, “gneiva is assur”. Of course it is, but what about the pressures created in the yeshiva that push people to the brink of poverty, and beyond, and which then force them as it were to make extensive use of the welfare system, sometimes pushing the envelope of what’s legal? What about the system that leaves people without any training or education to bring in a respectable salary? It’s not as if someone can learn in a mesivta, then a yeshiva, and kollel until they’re 29 or 32 and then expect to leave learning and make a decent parnossah. Sure some can do it, but most can’t. What, start an e-bay business? for real? And you can’t just say then, ok, I’m going to be a doctor or a lawyer or accountant or public school teacher, etc.