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” If he’s supposed to get it he’ll get it, highly doubt lying is hishtadlus.”
oy: I actually just heard a shiur that said like in shidduchim since everyone lies or “twists the truth” you’re allowed to lie because everyone “knows” that you’re lying…
Fundraisers for yeshivas are allowed to lie to get money for yeshivas…
Everyone is allowed to lie to “keep the peace”
Rav Moshe Feinstein brings down the question about why it’s ok to “lie” by a dinner about the guest of honor. He also addresses the issue of flattery (chanifa) and he answers that it’s not a problem because the guest of honor doesn’t even believe it himself!!!
That’s the kosher lying which I don’t have a problem with because that’s the halachah..but people stretching those rules (halevai) and flat out lying about everything else…