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May 10, 2017 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #1273780mw13Participant
Should Director Comey have been fired?
What do you think Trumpâs real motivations were in firing him?
Will all of this help or hurt Trump?
May 10, 2017 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1273816ubiquitinParticipantShould Director Comey have been fired?
Yes â but at the time that he did something wrong. Leaving him in place As recently as April he said âI have confidence in him.â So what changed?
What do you think Trumpâs real motivations were in firing him?
Comey was investigating the the Russian connection, and not letting up
Will all of this help or hurt Trump?
His supporters dont care. As Trump said âI could shoot someone and not lose votesâ (Im fairly certain he meant it as a compliment)
May 10, 2017 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #1273887JosephParticipantâShould Director Comey have been fired?â
The President of the United States can fire the Director of the FBI for any or no reason at all. The Director legally serves at the pleasure of the President.
Since he no longer pleasured the President, he was correctly fired.
âWhat do you think Trumpâs real motivations were in firing him?â
He was a loose cannon who unpredictably did what he wanted. President Trump is also like that. But Pres. Trump doesnât like anyone like that to work for him.
âWill all of this help or hurt Trump?â
It will blow over in a couple of weeks as the next rattle the President does takes over the news cycle.
Signing a military pact with Russia. War with North Korea. Youâll forget Comey faster than last weekâs news.
18 months before the next election is equal to more than three political lifetimes.
May 10, 2017 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #1273897đRebYidd23ParticipantThat sounded wrong.
May 10, 2017 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #1273929yehudayonaParticipantWhile the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the President, his term is set at 10 years, which obviously means he normally serves under multiple presidents. The only previous president to fire an FBI director was Bill Clinton, who fired William Sessions after Sessions refused to resign despite accusations of corruption.
I predict that Trump will not serve out his term. There are many scenarios that could lead to this, but Iâm not going to go into them now.
May 11, 2017 10:17 am at 10:17 am #1274097iacisrmmaParticipantMany presidents wanted to fire J. Edgar Hoover, but he had âdirtâ on all of them. While the Director does have a 10 year term, the President can replace him/her at anytime.
May 11, 2017 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm #1274200HealthParticipantMW13 -âShould Director Comey have been fired?â
It depends whether the Deputy AG was telling the truth!âWhat do you think Trumpâs real motivations were in firing him?â
The real motivations were to do the right thing! Thatâs why he listened to the Deputy AG.âWill all of this help or hurt Trump?â
That depends on whether the American people can be fooled by the DemonCrats!
They will make the most out of this for their political advantage.
But from the last election â you see that the American people couldnât be fooled by the liberals!May 11, 2017 1:59 pm at 1:59 pm #1274255Avi KParticipantJoseph, the question is not could Trump fire Comey but should he have fired him. That is to say, was it a wise decision? I think that it definitely was not as it at least gives the appearance that he was fired because of his investigation of connections to Russia. The fact that Trump called him in violation of DOJ protocols only makes it worse.
May 11, 2017 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #1274260đRebYidd23ParticipantLook, sir, if you have a problem with the Democrats, you can say so. I donât like them much myself. But DemonCrats is a silly insult. Plus there is no correct pronunciation because âDemoâ is not pronounced like âdemonâ.
May 11, 2017 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #1274262đRebYidd23ParticipantSometimes I think Trump is just trolling us.
May 11, 2017 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #1274268hujuParticipantRe comment by Health: Actually, the liberals (of which I am one) did fool the American people in the last election â their candidate (crooked Hillary) got a majority of the peopleâs votes.
May 11, 2017 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #1274300mw13ParticipantBTW â mods, I get the fire moji, but whatâs with the trumpet?
Trump-et.
May 11, 2017 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #1274299mw13ParticipantIf Trump really fired Comey âcuz of the whole Hillary thing, whyâd he wait till now?
And if Trump fired Comey âcuz of the whole Russia thing, why would firing Comey help?
SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Without going into the specifics of any individual investigation, I think the American people want to know has the dismissal of Mr. Comey in any way impeded, interrupted, stopped, or negatively impacted any of the work, any investigation, or any ongoing projects at the Federal Bureau of Investigations?
ACTING FBI DIRECTOR MCCABE: As you know, Senator, the work the men and women of the FBI continues despite any changes in circumstance, any decisions, so there has been no effort to impede our investigation today. Simply put, sir, you cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people, and upholding the Constitution.
May 11, 2017 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1274297đRebYidd23ParticipantThe only thing that fooled the American people was the notion of voting for the lesser of two evils.
May 11, 2017 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #1274387HealthParticipantHuju -âActually, the liberals (of which I am one) did fool the American people in the last election â their candidate (crooked Hillary) got a majority of the peopleâs votesâ
Oh please stop, you liberals have been complaining about this since Harrison won the election 150 years ago. He was a republican. How many times did the DemonCrats control the US government?
They had plenty of times to change the law. If you believe in democracy, you canât just complain when the election doesnât go your way!
Btw, the President is elected by the Electoral College, in case youâre interested.May 11, 2017 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1274395đRebYidd23ParticipantIf you believe in free speech, you can complain all along. Also, American elections are far from democratic.
By the way, how do you pronounce DemonCrat?
May 11, 2017 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #1274428â DaasYochid âParticipantHe was answering according your own stated standard, âthe American peopleâ.
May 12, 2017 10:31 am at 10:31 am #1274643yehudayonaParticipantUnlike Ben Carson, Health and Trump didnât give up name-calling in third grade.
May 12, 2017 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1274613mw13ParticipantSo now itâs being reported that:
The Deputy AGâs report was *not* the cause of Comeyâs firing, as Trump originally claimed;
And that Comey did not *not* request more resources for the Russia investigation right before being fired, as the media originally claimed.
Right now, we seem to have more busted falsehoods here than truth.
mods, I get the fire moji, but whatâs with the trumpet?
Trump-et.
Lol. Somebodyâs really enjoying the new mojis, huh đ
May 12, 2017 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1274633LightbriteParticipantI havenât been alive long enough to complain for 150 years.
Just because someone is expressing dissatisfaction for a long time doesnât mean that you can discard it. Racism doesnât exist. All those people with darker skin colors have been complaining for hundreds of years now about stuff. They had their chance but stop complaining. They need to stop imagining problems. Law of Attraction. Think good and it will be good. There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
Nor does saying that you had the opportunity to do something and didnât make any sense.
Listen while you were up there on Mount Everest you could have taken a selfie! Why didnât you? Because you had a short window of time to make it to the top and there were people in line and if you took a few extra minutes your lungs could have collapsed and no one needs a dead body crashing into them? Posh posh itâs all your fault!
If you believe in Democracy than you should accept that anyone can be our president even if he comes with a ton of baggage and incites violence on our people! Because in the end I think he is good for America and my interests! Roar!
May 12, 2017 10:45 am at 10:45 am #1274653yehudayonaParticipantGetting rid of the electoral college is not a matter of changing the law. It requires a Constitutional amendment. Itâs very difficult to amend the Constitution, as can be seen by the extremely low number of them (only 17 after the Bill of Rights).
May 12, 2017 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #1274815lesschumrasParticipantThere was a two minute clip put together by Trump s staff that illustrates the hypocricy of the Democratâs firestorm. In this clip, virtually every major Democrat ( Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, Kane and about 8 more) are shown demanding the Comey be fired or that Comey should resign. Now, they are blasting Trump for doing what, for the past few months, they were demanding
May 12, 2017 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #1274853ubiquitinParticipantlesscumros
I havent seen the clip, but it sounds silly (if it was put together by Trumpsâ staff wouldnt expect much more.).Yes months ago he should have been fired. However what changed now? Why was he fired ? > 3 months into presidency? what could he have been investigating that made Trump nervous when a short while ago he âHad full confidence in himâ
Ill give you a hint it rhymes with prussia
May 12, 2017 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #1274846DovidBTParticipantShemos 18:21
May 15, 2017 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #1276651HealthParticipantUbiq -âIll give you a hint it rhymes with prussiaâ
I love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?
Iâm sure theyâre are more people in the FBI than Comey. Besides I think that the Congress (plenty of DemonCrats in Congress) is investigating this whole Russia/Trump thing.
How come they arenât investigating Clinton & company â because the DemonCrats didnât win the Executive branch of government?!?May 15, 2017 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #1276918ubiquitinParticipantMy dearest Helath How I have missed you! How have you been?
âI love the conspiracy theories!â
I know you do, people who cite cases from SSCOTUS ( secret Supreme court of the United states, not to be confused with the very real SCOTUS) cases are usually big fans of conspiracy theories,
Luckily for you, your boy Trump too is a fan of conspiracy theories (did he ever share what his investigators turned up in Hawaii? and did he ever âReallyâ solve what happened to Scalia) Anyway as he told LEster Holt regarding why he fired Comey: âYou know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up storyââIf you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?â
He will appoint his own crony who wont look into it.âHow come they arenât investigating Clinton & company â
who are âTheyâ The FBI did investigate remember?âbecause the DemonCrats didnât win the Executive branch of government?!?â
Im sorry, what?anyway question for you, if the reason for the firing was as Trumpâs spokespeople and not he himself said (namely over hillary hahaha give me a second it is hard to even type that without cracking up) Why did he ait until now? and why did he repeatedly prise Comey initally
July 12, 2017 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #1316910HealthParticipantUbiq -âHe will appoint his own crony who wont look into it.â
Now Iâve proven right again. The guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesnât profess alliegence to Trump.
Enough with the lies!July 13, 2017 7:52 am at 7:52 am #1317010ubiquitinParticipantNu nu so Trump is incompetent no chidush there
and âNow Iâve proven right again.â
lololololo!!!thanks I needed that laugh . I have never seen anyone (besides Trump of course) been proven wrong as much as you
Here is why your boy Trump said he fired Comey: âAnd, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, âYou know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.âTrump admitted he fired Comey because of Russia. This isnt controversial or debatable.
July 14, 2017 10:51 am at 10:51 am #1317760HealthParticipantUbiq -âNu nu so Trump is incompetent no chidush thereâ
I know, you rather have Obama! After all, there was no terror attacks during his presidency, or was there?!?
Or perhaps Hillary, so this country will be called The United Mexican States?!?July 14, 2017 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm #1317776kollelmanParticipantYou guys do realize that Alan Dershowitz (who is by no means a Trump supporter) clearly stated that there is no criminality here. The President is the highest power in the Executive branch. The FBI is a lower division of the Presidentâs branch. The FBI director works for the President. The President has the power to pardon anyone in the country (technically, including himself) and therefore there is no issue here. Letâs not forget that the Mueller investigation is still continuing, so firing Comey had no bearing on the investigation. PS, expect this whole investigation to turn against the DNC.
July 14, 2017 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm #1317775ubiquitinParticipantWe arent talkign about Obama nor Hillary
We are tlaking about Trump and his reason for firing Comey:the OP asked:
âWhat do you think Trumpâs real motivations were in firing him?âI replied:
âComey was investigating the the Russian connection, and not letting upâyou said
âI love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?âThen the Donald stepped in and said âUbiquitin is right (As usual)â
Note: that isnt a verbatim quote he actually said âAnd, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, âYou know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.â
Yet strangely a staunch supporter of alternate facts who was proven dead wrong had this to say
âNow Iâve proven right again.âJuly 14, 2017 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1317843HealthParticipantUbiq -âThen the Donald stepped in and said âUbiquitin is right (As usual)ââ
You still didnât answer the question! â âI love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?â
After all â all the obstructionists have brought in an independent counsel & all the congressional committees, so if there is any criminality â they can find it without Comey!
Unless you think that they are incompetent, like you claim Trump is, except for Comey?!?July 14, 2017 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1317869ubiquitinParticipantââ You still didnât answer the question! âI love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?ââ
Iâm sorry To make up for the lack of response Iâll offer several take your pick:
1) Trump didnt think that far ahead (does he ever). Comey was investigating so he got mad and fired him
2) He was planning to appoint his own crony who wont look into it (Iâm fairly certain I said this earlier)
3) the replacement would have dropped it, but Comey forced his hand by releasing the memo thus having a special counsel appointed
4) I dont know. Trump does/says many things that are impossible for rational people to explain. this might be one of them
5) You said âThe guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesnât profess allegiance to Trumpâ maybe he is lying and did profess allegiance to Trump
6) You said âThe guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesnât profess allegiance to Trumpâ Maybe he lied to Trump and told Trump he would profess allegiance to him though he didnt mean it.âso if there is any criminality â they can find it without Comeyâ
yes hopefully.Kolelman
âYou guys do realize that Alan Dershowitz (who is by no means a Trump supporter) clearly stated that there is no criminality hereâAlan Dershowitz is not some sort of final say. (though he certainly knows more than I do) Other lawyers disagree with him. If Mueller digs up something that the senate feels is âhigh crimes and misdemaneorâ a term that I beleive is deided on by the senate, definitely not by Alan Dershowitz Trump can be impeached and his pardoning days are over
and even if not. Many americans want to know the truth. Even if there is nothing that can be done about it
July 14, 2017 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #1317890HealthParticipantUbiq -âIâm sorry To make up for the lack of response Iâll offer several take your pickâ
Iâm sorry too! All you can up with is conspiracy theories, but before you denigrate the President of the US in a public forum, you should base it on facts.
I know you would apply this to a DemonCrat president!July 14, 2017 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1317919ubiquitinParticipantâbut before you denigrate the President of the US in a public forum, you should base it on facts.â
1. Last I checked it is stilll a free country. Just like Trump was free to criticize Obama based on conspiracy theories therby dabbling in politics which led u s to today, I am free to do the same.
2. This thread was why Trump fired Comey. the reason I gave has been confirmed by donald himself, Im not sure how much more factual you can get.
3. Youre question was regarding Trumpâs inner thinking. I assumed it was obvious that no person can actually know and thus you were asking me to make an educated guess. Im sorry if I in any way insinuated that any of my reasons wre based on fact (in fact some were contradictory)
4. Trump has been in the limelight pretty long. He isnt some new -comer to the public stage. The truth is Trump doesnt think far ahead. He has said this in several interviews over the years. Thus reason number 1 is likely the correct one and is (more that the others) based on fact.
April 16, 2018 11:29 am at 11:29 am #1506880HealthParticipantWith regards to the News over the weekend â one thing you see â Comey is a fool!
He basically admitted his actions were based that Clinton was going to become President.April 16, 2018 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm #1506926Reb EliezerParticipantNo, in retrospect it is much worse for Trump with Mueller.
April 27, 2018 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #1512674HealthParticipantI listened to 2 interviews with Comey.
What I want to know â why did he decide that there wasnât enough evidence to prosecute Clinton?!?
The way the system works â if there is any question about prosecuting s/o â the evidence is given to a Grand Jury!
I smell a cover-up from the Obama administration!!!April 27, 2018 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1512713Reb EliezerParticipantHealth maybe your name does not reflect your through being, if everything points to collusion with the Russians in our elections
why doesnât the House committee investigate it properly in order to stop it in the future?April 27, 2018 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #1512732HealthParticipantlaskern -âif everything points to collusion with the Russians in our elections
why doesnât the House committee investigate it properly in order to stop it in the futureâFirst of all, my comment had nothing to do with the House of Representives decisions!
2nd of all, why do you need 4 groups deciding about Russian collusion â Mueller, & 3 in congress?!? -
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