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Should Director Comey have been fired?
Yes – but at the time that he did something wrong. Leaving him in place As recently as April he said “I have confidence in him.” So what changed?
What do you think Trump’s real motivations were in firing him?
Comey was investigating the the Russian connection, and not letting up
Will all of this help or hurt Trump?
His supporters dont care. As Trump said “I could shoot someone and not lose votes” (Im fairly certain he meant it as a compliment)
“Should Director Comey have been fired?”
The President of the United States can fire the Director of the FBI for any or no reason at all. The Director legally serves at the pleasure of the President.
Since he no longer pleasured the President, he was correctly fired.
“What do you think Trump’s real motivations were in firing him?”
He was a loose cannon who unpredictably did what he wanted. President Trump is also like that. But Pres. Trump doesn’t like anyone like that to work for him.
“Will all of this help or hurt Trump?”
It will blow over in a couple of weeks as the next rattle the President does takes over the news cycle.
Signing a military pact with Russia. War with North Korea. You’ll forget Comey faster than last week’s news.
18 months before the next election is equal to more than three political lifetimes.
That sounded wrong.
While the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the President, his term is set at 10 years, which obviously means he normally serves under multiple presidents. The only previous president to fire an FBI director was Bill Clinton, who fired William Sessions after Sessions refused to resign despite accusations of corruption.
I predict that Trump will not serve out his term. There are many scenarios that could lead to this, but I’m not going to go into them now.
Many presidents wanted to fire J. Edgar Hoover, but he had “dirt” on all of them. While the Director does have a 10 year term, the President can replace him/her at anytime.
MW13 -“Should Director Comey have been fired?”
It depends whether the Deputy AG was telling the truth!“What do you think Trump’s real motivations were in firing him?”
The real motivations were to do the right thing! That’s why he listened to the Deputy AG.“Will all of this help or hurt Trump?”
That depends on whether the American people can be fooled by the DemonCrats!
They will make the most out of this for their political advantage.
But from the last election – you see that the American people couldn’t be fooled by the liberals!Joseph, the question is not could Trump fire Comey but should he have fired him. That is to say, was it a wise decision? I think that it definitely was not as it at least gives the appearance that he was fired because of his investigation of connections to Russia. The fact that Trump called him in violation of DOJ protocols only makes it worse.
Look, sir, if you have a problem with the Democrats, you can say so. I don’t like them much myself. But DemonCrats is a silly insult. Plus there is no correct pronunciation because “Demo” is not pronounced like “demon”.
Sometimes I think Trump is just trolling us.
Re comment by Health: Actually, the liberals (of which I am one) did fool the American people in the last election – their candidate (crooked Hillary) got a majority of the people’s votes.
The only thing that fooled the American people was the notion of voting for the lesser of two evils.
Huju -“Actually, the liberals (of which I am one) did fool the American people in the last election – their candidate (crooked Hillary) got a majority of the people’s votes”
Oh please stop, you liberals have been complaining about this since Harrison won the election 150 years ago. He was a republican. How many times did the DemonCrats control the US government?
They had plenty of times to change the law. If you believe in democracy, you can’t just complain when the election doesn’t go your way!
Btw, the President is elected by the Electoral College, in case you’re interested.If you believe in free speech, you can complain all along. Also, American elections are far from democratic.
By the way, how do you pronounce DemonCrat?
He was answering according your own stated standard, “the American people”.
Unlike Ben Carson, Health and Trump didn’t give up name-calling in third grade.
I haven’t been alive long enough to complain for 150 years.
Just because someone is expressing dissatisfaction for a long time doesn’t mean that you can discard it. Racism doesn’t exist. All those people with darker skin colors have been complaining for hundreds of years now about stuff. They had their chance but stop complaining. They need to stop imagining problems. Law of Attraction. Think good and it will be good. There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
Nor does saying that you had the opportunity to do something and didn’t make any sense.
Listen while you were up there on Mount Everest you could have taken a selfie! Why didn’t you? Because you had a short window of time to make it to the top and there were people in line and if you took a few extra minutes your lungs could have collapsed and no one needs a dead body crashing into them? Posh posh it’s all your fault!
If you believe in Democracy than you should accept that anyone can be our president even if he comes with a ton of baggage and incites violence on our people! Because in the end I think he is good for America and my interests! Roar!
Getting rid of the electoral college is not a matter of changing the law. It requires a Constitutional amendment. It’s very difficult to amend the Constitution, as can be seen by the extremely low number of them (only 17 after the Bill of Rights).
There was a two minute clip put together by Trump s staff that illustrates the hypocricy of the Democrat’s firestorm. In this clip, virtually every major Democrat ( Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, Kane and about 8 more) are shown demanding the Comey be fired or that Comey should resign. Now, they are blasting Trump for doing what, for the past few months, they were demanding
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I havent seen the clip, but it sounds silly (if it was put together by Trumps’ staff wouldnt expect much more.).Yes months ago he should have been fired. However what changed now? Why was he fired ? > 3 months into presidency? what could he have been investigating that made Trump nervous when a short while ago he “Had full confidence in him”
Ill give you a hint it rhymes with prussia
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Ubiq -“Ill give you a hint it rhymes with prussia”
I love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?
I’m sure they’re are more people in the FBI than Comey. Besides I think that the Congress (plenty of DemonCrats in Congress) is investigating this whole Russia/Trump thing.
How come they aren’t investigating Clinton & company – because the DemonCrats didn’t win the Executive branch of government?!?My dearest Helath How I have missed you! How have you been?
“I love the conspiracy theories!”
I know you do, people who cite cases from SSCOTUS ( secret Supreme court of the United states, not to be confused with the very real SCOTUS) cases are usually big fans of conspiracy theories,
Luckily for you, your boy Trump too is a fan of conspiracy theories (did he ever share what his investigators turned up in Hawaii? and did he ever “Really” solve what happened to Scalia) Anyway as he told LEster Holt regarding why he fired Comey: “You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story”“If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?”
He will appoint his own crony who wont look into it.“How come they aren’t investigating Clinton & company ”
who are “They” The FBI did investigate remember?“because the DemonCrats didn’t win the Executive branch of government?!?”
Im sorry, what?anyway question for you, if the reason for the firing was as Trump’s spokespeople and not he himself said (namely over hillary hahaha give me a second it is hard to even type that without cracking up) Why did he ait until now? and why did he repeatedly prise Comey initally
Ubiq -“He will appoint his own crony who wont look into it.”
Now I’ve proven right again. The guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesn’t profess alliegence to Trump.
Enough with the lies!Nu nu so Trump is incompetent no chidush there
and “Now I’ve proven right again.”
lololololo!!!thanks I needed that laugh . I have never seen anyone (besides Trump of course) been proven wrong as much as you
Here is why your boy Trump said he fired Comey: “And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.”Trump admitted he fired Comey because of Russia. This isnt controversial or debatable.
Ubiq -“Nu nu so Trump is incompetent no chidush there”
I know, you rather have Obama! After all, there was no terror attacks during his presidency, or was there?!?
Or perhaps Hillary, so this country will be called The United Mexican States?!?You guys do realize that Alan Dershowitz (who is by no means a Trump supporter) clearly stated that there is no criminality here. The President is the highest power in the Executive branch. The FBI is a lower division of the President’s branch. The FBI director works for the President. The President has the power to pardon anyone in the country (technically, including himself) and therefore there is no issue here. Let’s not forget that the Mueller investigation is still continuing, so firing Comey had no bearing on the investigation. PS, expect this whole investigation to turn against the DNC.
We arent talkign about Obama nor Hillary
We are tlaking about Trump and his reason for firing Comey:the OP asked:
“What do you think Trump’s real motivations were in firing him?”I replied:
“Comey was investigating the the Russian connection, and not letting up”you said
“I love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?”Then the Donald stepped in and said “Ubiquitin is right (As usual)”
Note: that isnt a verbatim quote he actually said “And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.”
Yet strangely a staunch supporter of alternate facts who was proven dead wrong had this to say
“Now I’ve proven right again.”Ubiq -“Then the Donald stepped in and said “Ubiquitin is right (As usual)””
You still didn’t answer the question! – “I love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?”
After all – all the obstructionists have brought in an independent counsel & all the congressional committees, so if there is any criminality – they can find it without Comey!
Unless you think that they are incompetent, like you claim Trump is, except for Comey?!?““ You still didn’t answer the question! –I love the conspiracy theories! If you think Comey was on to something with regards to Russia, why would firing him solve anything?!?””
I’m sorry To make up for the lack of response I’ll offer several take your pick:
1) Trump didnt think that far ahead (does he ever). Comey was investigating so he got mad and fired him
2) He was planning to appoint his own crony who wont look into it (I’m fairly certain I said this earlier)
3) the replacement would have dropped it, but Comey forced his hand by releasing the memo thus having a special counsel appointed
4) I dont know. Trump does/says many things that are impossible for rational people to explain. this might be one of them
5) You said “The guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesn’t profess allegiance to Trump” maybe he is lying and did profess allegiance to Trump
6) You said “The guy appointed to lead the FBI swears he doesn’t profess allegiance to Trump” Maybe he lied to Trump and told Trump he would profess allegiance to him though he didnt mean it.“so if there is any criminality – they can find it without Comey”
yes hopefully.Kolelman
“You guys do realize that Alan Dershowitz (who is by no means a Trump supporter) clearly stated that there is no criminality here”Alan Dershowitz is not some sort of final say. (though he certainly knows more than I do) Other lawyers disagree with him. If Mueller digs up something that the senate feels is “high crimes and misdemaneor” a term that I beleive is deided on by the senate, definitely not by Alan Dershowitz Trump can be impeached and his pardoning days are over
and even if not. Many americans want to know the truth. Even if there is nothing that can be done about it
Ubiq -“I’m sorry To make up for the lack of response I’ll offer several take your pick”
I’m sorry too! All you can up with is conspiracy theories, but before you denigrate the President of the US in a public forum, you should base it on facts.
I know you would apply this to a DemonCrat president!“but before you denigrate the President of the US in a public forum, you should base it on facts.”
1. Last I checked it is stilll a free country. Just like Trump was free to criticize Obama based on conspiracy theories therby dabbling in politics which led u s to today, I am free to do the same.
2. This thread was why Trump fired Comey. the reason I gave has been confirmed by donald himself, Im not sure how much more factual you can get.
3. Youre question was regarding Trump’s inner thinking. I assumed it was obvious that no person can actually know and thus you were asking me to make an educated guess. Im sorry if I in any way insinuated that any of my reasons wre based on fact (in fact some were contradictory)
4. Trump has been in the limelight pretty long. He isnt some new -comer to the public stage. The truth is Trump doesnt think far ahead. He has said this in several interviews over the years. Thus reason number 1 is likely the correct one and is (more that the others) based on fact.
With regards to the News over the weekend – one thing you see – Comey is a fool!
He basically admitted his actions were based that Clinton was going to become President.No, in retrospect it is much worse for Trump with Mueller.
I listened to 2 interviews with Comey.
What I want to know – why did he decide that there wasn’t enough evidence to prosecute Clinton?!?
The way the system works – if there is any question about prosecuting s/o – the evidence is given to a Grand Jury!
I smell a cover-up from the Obama administration!!!Health maybe your name does not reflect your through being, if everything points to collusion with the Russians in our elections
why doesn’t the House committee investigate it properly in order to stop it in the future?laskern -“if everything points to collusion with the Russians in our elections
why doesn’t the House committee investigate it properly in order to stop it in the future”First of all, my comment had nothing to do with the House of Representives decisions!
2nd of all, why do you need 4 groups deciding about Russian collusion – Mueller, & 3 in congress?!?
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