Reply To: Any heter to not get drunk on Purim?

The way I see it there are three categories:

1) understand Rava ?????? and accept it ?????

2) understand Rava not ?????? and accept it ?????

3) don’t accept Rava ?????

Within category two there can be huge range regarding how much you have to drink. My original point in this thread was that the vast majority of rishonim/acharonim fall into categories two and three.

Why are you grouping categories two and three together when it would be more logical to group categories one and two together?

I also think that when it comes to anyone who just quoted Rava’s lashon, we can’t know what there exact position is. The most we can know is that they brought down Rava’s statement ????? so they are not in category three. But we don’t know how they understood Rava’s statement.

Why would they unclearly quote Rava’s lashon verbatim without further elucidation if they didn’t mean it in the simple sense?

Oh good. Now I can tell everyone that they shouldn’t get drunk because…

Ah! This is the problem – that people arguing against Purim drunkenness are often coming with an agenda as their starting point. They want to assur drunkenness on Purim and then go looking for shittos for fit that goal. And many even get upset at you merely for pointing out all the many valid shittos insisting on the halachic requirement to get drunk and all the real examples of contemporary and historic vintage of great and regular yiddden appropriately fulfilling this halacha by getting drunk on Purim.

BTW, it was worth starting this thread if for nothing else than to have you cite Rav Menashe Klein zt’l.

Ah Freilichen Shushan Purim un ah Gutte Erev Shabbos! (-: