DY: “He is very anti, but is also a pragmatist.”
That’s two different things then. One has to do with how you relate to the State on a hashkafic level, and the other has to do with how you relate to it on a practical level.
I haven’t read it yet; I am just responding to your comment. But that does fit in with what I understood the mainstream Yeshivish/Chareidi (Agudah) view to be.