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Lilmod Ulelamaid
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DY, it’s really nice of you to be “dan l’kaf zchus” but I don’t know. He still continued with his false claims against Yekke2 after that. And if that was his point and he really wants to take back his original statement, I think he should make it clearer.

And he still said this AFTER the post you quoted:

A cry against Chillul Hashem in the CR

He is very clearly calling it an aveirah (yet still saying that one should do it).

Additionally, as you yourself pointed out previously, the fact that the guy is “a known molester” does not mean that a sheilah does not need to be asked. You have to know what you are allowed to say and to whom. It is also not clear what the definition of “known molester” is here. In the original context we were talking about people who were rumored to be molesters but were not in fact molesters. And again, molesters was just one example he gave.

Also, the context of the discussion was about posting information about people online who reportedly were oiver on aveiros (molesting was just one example) without asking a sheilah, and just assuming that it is always a good thing to do (if it was an aveira bein adam l’chaveiro) because someone might possibly be helped by it.

That is a terrible thing to say!!! You can really be ruining peoples’ lives. Sometimes, there are things that must be said, but many times it is absolutely forbidden to say something! In order to be allowed, there are many factors that must be present. And I highly doubt that anyone would say it’s okay to post online anyone who has cheated on their taxes!!!! (which was one example he gave).

So if ZD really wants to take back what he said, he would have to make it clear that he did not mean that one can publicly denounce anyone without first clarifying the halacha. (how one clarifies the halacha is another subject and we can start a new thread on that).