HaKatan -“I’m not sure what happened to my other response, so I’ll be brief here: my “defense” of today’s generation has nothing to do with a shot-in-the-dark limud zichus nor can it be compared to Sedom.”
Of course it can be compared to S’dom. As a matter of fact you agreed in previous posts to this. I just did a search of your past posts. Stop being a hypocrite.
“Please read the relevant peirushim and midrashim. Sedom was evil, as in E.V.I.L. While it is wrong to condone and legalize this toeiva, this is a far, far different culture than sedom. This country has been very kind to its citizens (and gives citizenship rights to anyone born on its soil). Whereas Sedom savagely and torturously murdered any guests who happened to pass through.”
Just because they aren’t exactly the same -in the main problem they are!
“Again, please don’t be so foolish as to blame secular culture’s morass on the very people, Hashem’s am HaNivchar, who do what they can to rise above it, BE”H.”
Who blamed Klal Yisroel for this? Don’t put words in my mouth!
“And, similarly, it is a chutzpah and a tremendous lack of hakaras HaTov and/or simple surface-thinking for one to write off the USA as another Sedom because of a particular failing when there is so much more good that it does and that which sedom never dreamed of doing.”
Sorry, this Avlah isn’t just “a particular failing”, like you say. This causes destruction of the world. It doesn’t matter that they do some good. Their evil outweighs any good.
I even found a MO guy who disagrees with you and agrees with me:
“Feif Un
Proud Modern Orthodox
Remember also, that it says the generation of the mabul was finally punished because they recognized gay marriage. It says it also about Sedom. The Greek empire, the Roman empire – they both also recognized gay marriage, and both are gone now.
It’s clear that, as sammyjoe said, a society only maintains its right to exist if they do not recognize this abomination as legitimate. Let us try and help our medinah shel chesed by fighting against this abomination. The US has been a tremendous help to the Jewish nation, let us help protect the country when we can.
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